Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Regional At Best (album)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Opinions split roughly equally between keeping, deleting and redirecting. Suggest a talk page thread to discuss further. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  12:43, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Following a DRV, the result was changed to redirect to Twenty One Pilots Barkeep49 (talk) 14:24, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Regional at Best (Album)

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The sources are either primary, do not discuss the subject, or are not reliable. This has gone through two previous AfDs (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Regional at Best (album) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Regional at Best)) and there are two drafts (Draft:Regional at Best and Draft:Regional At Best) that have gone nowhere because of this. Delete and WP:SALT. Walter Görlitz (talk) 23:16, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 14:45, 14 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep This is an EXTREMELY important album of Twenty One Pilots, and I'll add sources. Mausebru (talk) 23:37, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Its apparent importance is immaterial. Prove it is important by supplying significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject that discuss the album. Walter Görlitz (talk) 02:24, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep This album is beloved by so many fans, and I'm pretty sure we all help improve this article if it means that it gets to stay. A Battlefront Gamer (talk) 20:47, 13 June 2021 (EST)
 * A beloved album does not make it notable. Fans have had multiple years to supply sources to the draft articles. If you cannot find significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, we need to delete the article because Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of fan favourite topics. Walter Görlitz (talk) 02:24, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment This page has more references than their self titled album, just to mention. If admins wanna delete this page, then delete that one too. This page has like 20-30 refs, while the other one has only 11. Just noting Mausebru (talk) 03:11, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * It does, but some of those references are actually about that album. Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:44, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * And it appears that there is a cabal working on this: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ARegional_At_Best_%28album%29&type=revision&diff=1028443362&oldid=1028443305 Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:18, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep You do not need to delete this page. It's completely valid and deserves a Wikipedia page of it's own. I fully support it's stay on Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2401:4900:51DF:BE23:94A:27F5:2BB:94BD (talk) 13:46, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect - to Twenty One Pilots discography and protect against reversion. Notwithstanding the bludgeoning of different opinions and unsupported claims of conspiratorial cabals, the nominator is correct about how this album has never been discussed on its own terms in reliable music media. It is only ever mentioned briefly as a precursor to Vessel. The record company calls it "unofficial" and most of the songs were later improved and re-released elsewhere. It was a quickie fanclub release handed out at a few gigs, with 3,000 in sales for a band that sells millions of everything else, and I wonder if it even deserves to be described as one of the band's true albums. The songs became notable in their own ways later, but this album's existence as an entity in its own right is dubious. Its limited release can be (and is) described as a brief item in the band's history. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 15:04, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect Delete - Agreed with Doomsdayer520's assessment. It doesn't look like its an official album but is mentioned as an item in the band's history. That warrants a redirect at the very most. -- A Rose Wolf  19:05, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Forgot to say that Regional at Best (correct capitalization) and Regional At Best are redirects. This article was moved after the AfD was started. Regional at Best (Album), Regional at Best (album), Regional At Best (album), Regional At Best (Album) are unnecessary DABs. Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:20, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * That's probably the work of fans who were unaware or, or refused to accept the results of, previous delete/redirect discussions like this one. Hence my recommendation for protection against even more reversions. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 14:04, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Agreed. While redirects are cheap, do we really want one at every possible location as a likely search term? Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:12, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Should most definitely be protected and we do not need all of those redirects. Even a redirect title should follow Wikipedia's guidelines on style. has a point. There is only one correct way to title the redirect. I would suggest that the correct format/style of the album title should be kept. It is already redirected so that would make this article and all the other redirects not needed and should be deleted. I am changing my suggested course of action to delete based upon the discussion above. -- A Rose  Wolf  14:06, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Twenty One Pilots discography and protect. Fails WP:NALBUM per nom. SBKSPP (talk) 01:23, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Twenty One Pilots discography, per nom. Doesn't warrant an article, regardless of its importance or likeness. If it eventually receives a re-issue, I can see it having its own article. EthanRossie2000 10:30, 20 June 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.