Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reinier Blom


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The result was keep. Star  Mississippi  02:54, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Reinier Blom

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Violates WP:NOTDATABASE and does not meet WP:GNG as a non-notable Olympian.

He competed as part of a team of 22 Dutch Gymnasts in the 1908 Olympics, with his team coming second last, with us knowing little beyond that; just when and where he was born and died. BilledMammal (talk) 05:33, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. BilledMammal (talk) 05:33, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Netherlands-related deletion discussions. BilledMammal (talk) 05:33, 11 March 2022 (UTC)


 * "Violates WP:NOTDATABASE" isn't true or relevant, as the article is not 1)Summary-only descriptions of works, 2)Lyrics databases, 3)Excessive listings of unexplained statistics or 4)Exhaustive logs of software updates. If there's no further info on this guy, then redirect to Gymnastics at the 1908 Summer Olympics – Men's team per WP:ATD, WP:PRESERVE, WP:R and WP:CHEAP.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 10:17, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete we have no significant coverage on him. Wikipedia is not a reliable source and we do not have grandfather clauses, so there is no reason to just mass redirect articles that were created without sufficient sources. Leaving in place a huge number of redirects will leave in place a lot of working links and falsely suggest to some editors that this means we consider a set of subjects default notable. It is not a good plan.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:07, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * see WP:R on why it is damaging to delete articles that have been in place for some time without leaving redirects. It's not about notability. Ingratis (talk) 04:49, 12 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep There is at least one recent article on Mr. Blom, published in 2019 on the Amsterdam municipal archives website. I have introduced the reference in the article. According to the reference, Mr. Blom was quite a celebrity around the turn of the century in Amsterdam. A query on "R.J.C. Blom" on delpher.nl returns a significant number of newspaper articles on gymnastics events between 1890 and 1910 in the Netherlands. He was founder of one of the dutch gymnastics associations.User:Ruud Buitelaar (talk)01:40, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, that appears to be WP:SIGCOV. However, we require multiple examples of significant coverage; were you able to find two more? BilledMammal (talk) 17:38, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
 * There are many references in the Dutch Gymnastics Magazine between between 1890 and 1945 because Mr. Blom was member of the board of the Dutch Gymnastics Association. The magazine has been digitalized. In the article I included a reference to Mr. Blom on occasion of his 50 year membership of Olympia. I also found a picture of Mr. Blom in 1895, from a recently digitalized book celebrating Olympia´s 25 years of existence. Ruud Buitelaar (talk) 04:05, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep as per User:Ruud Buitelaar. Ingratis (talk) 04:49, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Lasting coverage. Absolutely no WP:BLP concern. Kudos to Ruud Buitelaar for his work here! gidonb (talk) 23:11, 12 March 2022 (UTC)


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