Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Religious democracy


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Speedy close - this nomination is a complete mess - it is impossible to see what is nominated for deletion and what is merely comment. Feel free to open individual AFDs for individual pages or clear groups of pages. Yomangani talk 15:47, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Religious democracy
Please see Talk:Religious democracy. This is the greatest piece of misinformation and falsehood.--Patchouli 14:04, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Iranian Revolutionary Guard Official in Tehran University Lecture (Part I): Islam Has Nothing in Common with Democracy--Patchouli 13:49, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

This lecture being real or unreal is the opinions of its lecturer. It is clear that he is an exterimist. Farhoudk 12:06, 11 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Calling for Religious tolerance? Have you heard of Bahais?
 * Rule of law? http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2006/01/18/iran12214.htm

Have you ever heard of Great Britain's old policy of "Divide and Conquer"? Farhoudk 12:06, 11 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Khatami
 * Khatami? http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=401

--Patchouli 14:50, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Those students were mainly secular reformists. They are against religious democracy and believe secular democracy. Farhoudk 12:06, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Here is a specific list of Khomeini's execution orders of noteworthy people.
 * Ethics?????!!!!!!!!!


 * Ali Dashti
 * Sadegh Ghotbzadeh
 * Amir Abbas Hoveyda
 * Hassan Pakravan
 * General Nader Jahanbani

Many thousands of others were also executed for religious or political reasons.

In his memoirs, Grand Ayatollah Hossein-Ali Montazeri, who was himself pivotal in founding the Islamic Republic, gives gruesome details of Khomeini's 1988 Massacre of Iranian Prisoners after the Iran-Iraq War. Khomeini's fatwa reads:

 "It is decreed that those who are in prisons throughout the country and remain steadfast in their support for the Monafeqin (Mojahedin) are waging war on God and are condemned to execution." — Christina Lamb, Khomeini fatwa 'led to killing of 30,000 in Iran', The Daily Telegraph, 2 April 2001

I think religion has priority over ethics.--Patchouli 13:53, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Why are you repetedly referring to monarchists? It is 21st century! Farhoudk 12:28, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[http://www.iranian.com/Opinion/2003/August/Khomeini/ Democracy? I meant theocracy The most truthful individual ] Come on!--Patchouli 13:55, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * "democratic systems" ...are liable to the most flagrant abuse and diverse interpretation ====


 * Iran student riots, July 1999

This article is a betrayal against all those activists and everyday people who have been tortured, lost their lives, been persecuted, lied to, etc.--Patchouli 14:08, 16 October 2006 (UTC)


 * That is an argument against content, not against an article's existence. If you feel material is in error, be bold and correct it; if you feel NPOV is greatly violated, take it to requests for comment. Procedural speedy keep due to lack of jurisdiction. Alba 15:16, 16 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Human rights in Islamic Republic of Iran

Human rights? Come on!--Patchouli 14:10, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Zahra Kazemi
 * Atefeh Rajabi
 * Evin prison


 * Your thoughts
 * Maybe keep Perhaps we should keep to demonstrate as a case in point of a "democracy". However, I defer to others to proffer their inputs.--Patchouli 15:02, 16 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Procedural speedy keep This mess of an AfD. User can refile individually according to proper procedure and then cite policy based reasons for deletions in each case. · XP  · 15:21, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Procedural speedy keep, consider moving discussion(s) to RfC: The user appears to have content objections that xe feels were unresolvable on talk pages . The correct escalation for a talk page dispute is not AfD but RfC. Nonetheless, user retains the right to re-nominate articles according to AfD standards and practices. Alba 15:32, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.