Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Renée Cinderhouse


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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 15:29, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Renée Cinderhouse

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Fails WP:ANYBIO of the 4 sources presented 2 are affiliated and the other 2 are "local artist" stories. Fails WP:NARTIST nothing in a WP:BEFORE search suggests that she meets any of the criteria. Dom from Paris (talk) 11:18, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
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Can you please tell me how to fix this problem, and help me improve the article so it gets published? This artist does deserve an article on Wikipedia. Genericname23 (talk) 23:20, 30 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep and improve The artist CV lists some awards, non-local coverage that could be checked out. Extended profile by NPR another good source not yet in article. HouseOfChange (talk) 00:25, 2 December 2018 (UTC) Changing !vote to Weak delete  I made some effort to improve based on CV materials, but there does not seem to be enough coverage beyond strictly local interest to satisfy NARTIST or GNG. Maybe just TOOSOON. HouseOfChange (talk) 08:58, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 * the NPR source is based on an interview, and therefore not RS. The CV 'awards' are run of the mill. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 01:24, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
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 * Delete the coverage, even if I go to the items in her CV, is entirely local. The CV Awards are all run of the mill items that have been fluffed up. There is nothing notable here, although there may be in future if the coverage expands. for now, it's a GNG fail.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 01:22, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and improve The CV indicates that she has received coverage, and had solo shows, out of her home state. The out of Kansas reviews need to be included as references, and the solo and group shows separated, with an emphasis on shows out of Kansas. RebeccaGreen (talk) 15:36, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * We don't keep articles based on a CV but on sources that show they meet notability requirements. Lots of artists have shows outside of their home areas but that doesn't mean they meet the criteria. Dom from Paris (talk) 06:42, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I was not suggesting that we keep the article based on the CV: I was trying to suggest to the article writer Genericname23 that it would be good to include in the article the coverage mentioned in the CV. Seeing coverage mentioned but not included suggests to me that there is more evidence on which to assess notability. RebeccaGreen (talk) 02:55, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 18:35, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: does not meet WP:CREATIVE and appears to be a product of undisclosed paid editing, based on the contributions and Talk page of the creator: Special:Contributions/Genericname23. See for example: Draft:Help4u.today. --K.e.coffman (talk) 04:25, 6 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Can somebody please help me with this article? I am a Wikipdia contributor on another language, and this one is a lot different that what I am used to, and I really want to publish contemporary artists here because I am doing my Phd on contemporary art and they have to be out there, people have to know about them. But I don't know how to create articles here, so can someone please help me out here? I really need the help and I really want to learn and contribute to Wikipedia with contemporary artists.Genericname23 (talk) 19:51, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Why would someone doing a Phd in contemporary art create an article on Draft:Help4u.today, a Dubai "Cleaning, babysitting, pet walking, care giving, car washing, pest control" business? Just entirely curious.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 12:50, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

Because one of the artits that I studied did an artwork on this company, so i saw it fitting to wriite about it too. I am also a graduated writer, and I like to challenge myself in writing also, so whenever I see a fitting topic, I want to write about it. And same goes here on Wikipedia, whenever I see a fitting topic to write/edit, I jump on that opportunity.Genericname23 (talk) 13:45, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

I don't know what that means. Genericname23 (talk) 13:45, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete not seeing the necessary (reliable, independent) coverage to indicate the subject meets WP:NARTIST.--SamHolt6 (talk) 00:17, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - Satisfies GNG. The first KCUR and The Pitch pieces are detailed and reliable sources. ♟♙ (talk) 02:55, 11 December 2018 (UTC)


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