Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rene Poms


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The result was delete. No indication he has played at a level to satisfy NFOOTY. Whilst there may be non-english language sources out there to satisfy GNG these have not been presented. Fenix down (talk) 08:36, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Rene Poms

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a football manager who fails WP:GNG and who has not managed a club in a fully pro league. PROD was contested on the basis that he had managed Wolfsberger AC in the Austrian Bundesliga. This claim is inaccurate. He was the fitness trainer at Wolfsberg, not the manager. Sir Sputnik (talk) 14:35, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
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 * Comment if we can confirm he played for Leoben or Kapfenberg, I believe the 2.Bundesliga is a fully professional league. As it stands, only sourced to transfermarkt, no prose, has to go. SportingFlyer  talk  14:58, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
 * There's nothing contentious in the article as it stands, all the facts are readily verifiable, we just need to know if he also played in a FPL. If that's the case, it doesn't need to go, it needs to be improved per WP:IMPERFECT. He seems to speak to the media a lot for an assistant coach, so he might even pass WP:GNG. Jack N. Stock (talk) 17:15, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I did a GNG search for him with Dinamo and only got name-drops, no significant coverage in Croatian media. But since transfermarkt is the one source and there's no other prose it needs to be deleted if he has no appearances, or draftifyed if he does. SportingFlyer  talk  01:02, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I searched Google news and found several substantial interviews with Rene Poms in Polish from his previous gig. Maybe he hasn't been at Dinamo Zagreb long enough yet. Jack N. Stock (talk) 02:31, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. I've stripped the article, removed the unsourced content, and started building it back up. But struggling to find anything about this guy to establish notability. GiantSnowman 13:37, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - the only source I can find (unsure about notability) about Wolfsberger is this which confirms he managed the amateur team (hence the '(A)' next to the team name, and was only an assistant to the main team. unsure what your views are. GiantSnowman 13:42, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Anyone know German? ? I think it's got stats on his career here. Govvy (talk) 13:43, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Also there are a lot of Polish sources, maybe a Polish editor can get the article to pass GNG or find out if he passes NFooty, Govvy (talk) 13:50, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Transfermarkt seems to suggest he played around 50 times in the 2.Liga, which is a fully professional league. However, it's also Transfermarkt. Reliable sources do show he played for teams which played in the 2.Liga, such as, but again that's not enough to show notability. SportingFlyer  talk  02:56, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete does not meet our absurdly low notability threshold for footballers.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:09, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 00:33, 25 November 2018 (UTC)


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