Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Renee Williams (person)


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The result was   no consensus. StarM 04:17, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Renee Williams (person)

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If I'm reading the article correctly, this person has received minor coverage as a result of being overweight. While not an event per se, I feel that WP:BLP1E definitely applies and there is no other coverage of this subject that I can find on Google News archives that would suggest reasonably notability for a biographical treatment. coccyx bloccyx (toccyx)  19:27, 31 October 2008 (UTC) *Delete Our own List of the heaviest people refutes this article's claim of her ever being the heaviest woman (see Carol Yager), which pretty much leaves her as an extremely obese woman. I think her being the heaviest person to have gastric-bypass surgery would be more notable if she'd actually survived the experience. Matt Deres (talk) 22:43, 1 November 2008 (UTC) 
 * Keep. The policy you refer to does not apply; it is for biographies of living people, but this person has died. As a world record holder as "the world's biggest woman", as well as the heaviest person to have a gastric bypass, this person is sufficiently notable to have an article. At worst, merge and redirect to List of the heaviest people. - Fayenatic (talk) 23:53, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Dispute: Read the dates - Carol Yager died 1994, Renee Williams in 2007. The source may therefore be correct that she was the heaviest woman at the time. The article does not say "heaviest woman ever", and I don't see why only the heaviest person ever or to date would be notable. Keep. - Fayenatic (talk) 14:12, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep You have convinced me it meets the criteria. Matt Deres (talk) 22:28, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Matt Deres, aside from the WP:BLP1E this person is not even trivially notable, the List of the heaviest people article should go as well. JBsupreme (talk) 01:15, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Why? --Pwnage8 (talk) 10:49, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Juliancolton Tropical  Cyclone  20:36, 5 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. If her only notability is being heaviest person alive at a certain time (not ever as of that time), then that notability expired when she did. DMacks (talk) 20:39, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Challenge: where does it say that in WP:BIO? That asks for multiple independent non-trivial sources. This woman was the subject of at least two separate television documentaries, plus a biography in at least one daily newspaper in country other than her own.  Wikipedia's notability criteria therefore appear to be satisfied. - Fayenatic (talk) 21:09, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Switch to keep per WP:BIO. Looked at the refs, they appear to be substantial/in-depth items, not just human-interest news filler as they had sounded. DMacks (talk) 08:27, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Based on the references in the article already, clearly satisfies WP:BIO as per Fayenatic and others above. Wikipedia notability is permanent.John Z (talk) 00:28, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Obviously notable and BLP1E does not apply as there is no other artcle for the supposed one event. Colonel Warden (talk) 14:18, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


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