Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Republic of Lomar (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Mgm|(talk) 11:11, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Republic of Lomar
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I can't find a single reliable source for it. All google brings up is personal web-sites, and various versions of the Wikipedia article. No reliable 3rd party sources, there are no references within the article, the 2 external links are down. The websites of the organization appears to not exist. My first impression is that this is a hoax, or at least not notable. Pstanton (talk) 23:51, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment Oh, also this is the 2nd AfD, the previous decision was to keep the article and improve it, which hasn't happened, and I at least haven't seen anything on Google that could be used as a source. --Pstanton (talk) 23:55, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - Although minor, it is mentioned in this book. More substantial are, , and .  Sufficient sources exist to establish notability, and certainly shows it isn't a hoax. -- Whpq (talk) 12:50, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete So it's a group that's run a fraudulent visa and passport service that now purports to be some humanitarian aid foundation? Regardless, none of its websites is still active. Non-notable fraud ring at the worst and someone's elaborate fantasy at best. Qqqqqq (talk) 21:54, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 23:59, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - my gut feeling is that this is a hoax. The acronym 'ROLF', the use of the Lovecraftian 'Lomar'...hmmm...trouble is there's enough truth mixed in to confuse the issue. Dom Klaus Schlapps of St Severin's is real enough but the website of the 'OPR' makes no mention of the Lomar project. Eddie.willers (talk) 02:25, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - Whatever this once was- and it seems to have never risen above the level of marginal notability- there's no evidence that it is currently active. If that is the case, no new material about it is likely to emerge, and the old material that I've seen linked so far is insufficient to produce a verifiable article.  If there is a sudden surge of activity and notability, it can always be recreated in user space.  --Clay Collier (talk) 03:51, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment All of the sources that have been mentioned only seem to refer to Lomar tangentially, the only thing that appears even mildly notable is an apparent scam in Nigeria using the name, years ago. I still think deletion is warranted. --Pstanton (talk) 04:07, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete without prejudice to recreation as an article on the subject of Whpq's sources, which do appear to be about something totally different to this article (i.e., a micronation or something similar, rather than an international political organisation as this article discusses). Article is in any case currently titled incorrectly for this content, as the organisation it describes is apparently not called "Republic of Lomar" anyway. JulesH (talk) 08:08, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The micronation was really a political organisation designed to give out "passports" to people in need so they are in fact one and teh same. -- Whpq (talk) 10:21, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


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