Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ressha Sentai ToQger vs. Kamen Rider Gaim: Spring Break Combined Special


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:06, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Ressha Sentai ToQger vs. Kamen Rider Gaim: Spring Break Combined Special

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This was broadcast and it did happen but this article is just a massive plot summary with no evidence of it being notable on its own. This is already dutifully covered (and excessively but I can't convince people to write less and I'm just as guilty some times) at List of Ressha Sentai ToQger episodes and List of Kamen Rider Gaim episodes. I have attempted to convince one user who is adamant about its retention despite multiple users having reverted his repeated restorations of this page to its massive and multi-guideline violating state. He has even attempted to deny me access to his page as if I was a bot.

I will note that there is a version on the Japanese Wikipedia, but it's a one sentence plot summary accompanying voluminous descriptions of the dramatis personae. Our version of the article should be deleted, because there is no suitable redirect target due to the nature of this "crossover" TV special, and also because the expanding authors just copied content directly from the two episode list articles without acknowleding that fact. Regarding notability, again, there are two references to Anime News Network (as well as two references to the official plot summaries), but both are reporting on information from two websites that are most definitely not reliable sources.

To sum it up, this happened, but it is definitely not independently notable. The only reason it seems a separate page is wanted is because it is a crossover and one user feels that the coverage on the separate episode lists is not good enough.— Ryūlóng ( 琉竜 ) 07:06, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  Jinkinson   talk to me  07:41, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

And instead of some massive re-listing fest that happens with these AFDs that no one feels like touching with a 10 foot pole can we just close it as if it was a proposed deletion instead of letting this crap article languish for another two weeks?— Ryūlóng ( 琉竜 ) 12:18, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:31, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

And is this all that happens? It just gets categorized into every fucking WikiProject Deletion sorting list that people think it can fit in? I should have just sent it to WP:PROD.— Ryūlóng ( 琉竜 ) 20:33, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
 * It hasn't even been a day, get a grip. Anyway, support per nom. Whi ste  rne fet  01:07, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah but I see this happen over and over. It just gets relisted for 3 weeks because no one gives a shit and then someone finally says "Keep" on the 3rd week" when it could have been nuked from orbit via PROD already.— Ryūlóng ( 琉竜 ) 06:25, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Isn't the process of relisting is supposed to help get it more attention from other WikiProjects? I know I've been slow-going around here lately because of this crummy redesign, but maybe that's just me, heh. Plus, you could just it PROD afterwards if this truly goes nowhere. Whisternefet (t &middot; c) 07:05, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * It's my understanding of policy that once something is sent to AFD and it survives, it cannot be sent to PROD.— Ryūlóng ( 琉竜 ) 04:59, 7 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep - sourced perfectly. - →Davey 2010→ →Talk to me!→  02:47, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * No. There are two sources that refer to the announcement coming from ANN that are sourced back to two different fan blogs. That's not "perfectly". And it's all plot and there's nothing else that can be said about it.— Ryūlóng ( 琉竜 ) 06:16, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - Why was this page created? A short plotsum is perfectly fine in the ToQger and Gaim lists. We do not need to give "special episodes" special treatment. —KirtZ Mail 07:46, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.