Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Restoration of Tuen Mun Park


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Tuen Mun Park § Noise problem. If this type of protest is appropriately covered in reliable sources, it might be viable to create an article on that, but there is consensus that this specific event does not meet the criteria for inclusion. If more sources arise, the article can be recreated following the procedure for spinning out sub-articles. (non-admin closure) Alpha3031 (t • c) 09:47, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Restoration of Tuen Mun Park

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Failing WP:EVENT. Also WP:NOTNEWS. Probably also a case of recentism, failing WP:10YT pseudonym Jake Brockman talk 13:35, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Hong Kong-related deletion discussions. pseudonym Jake Brockman talk 13:35, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

This event echos with the 2019 anti-extradition bill protests in Hong Kong that have raised numerous international attention which was even being discussed in the meeting between top governers of various countries. While the event is not an anti-extradition bill event, this Restoration of Tuen Mun Park action was organized with the same style as per the anti-extradition bill protests. The scale of this event is noticeable by itself and showed significant conflicts between police and the general public, as well as marked how democracy and law enforcement has eroded in Hong Kong. More detail shall be input as this is still an on-going event. Multiple people who might have violated the law were escorted by the police but might not have charges pressed against them. So I believe this page should remain in wikipedia. Dasostsu (talk) 14:16, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi. There are quite a lot of people suggested protesting in other regions with this protest style (inherited from the reclaim protests years before). I am thinking it would be better if this page can be moved to a new page, maybe something like Reclaim Protests in Hong Kong 2019, that would summarise all the reclaim protest happened and those that very probably will happen in future. Please advise if this would work out and if yes, what should I do? Dasostsu (talk) 10:36, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
 * From what I gather on local social media (which is of course not sufficient for Wikipedia articles}} there are a number of protests (this probably included) which are all along the line of "let's trouble the government", aligned to the extradition bill protests. If there is reliable, independent media coverage out there that confirms this, I would tend to a new article that generally talks about all those "secondary" protests - unless they can be merged into the main article about the extradition protests. The contents of this should then merge into those articles and a redirect placed. pseudonym Jake Brockman talk 17:22, 7 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Tuen Mun Park Sufficient information located there already. Nova Crystallis   (Talk)  04:36, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

I feel like the secondary protests approach is more appropriate, the protest is organized to combat the various types of nuisance caused by visitors/new immigrants with different cultures, nuisance including noise, street blockage, and even local shops are replaced by pharmacies that mainly sell milk formula. There might be a series of similar protests in other regions with dancing aunties/milk formula, like Sheung Shui Station/Central, you name it. Would be better if we group these events in an article instead of one in Tuen Mun Park, one in SS station, and so on. Dasostsu (talk) 07:00, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

I think it is better to wait for one week later until the reclaim Sheung Shai Action and reclaim Shatin Action has ended.
 * sorry for jumping in. I feel really uneasy about effectively front-running future events, especially when they are in a politically charged environment. IMO there is indication of agenda-pushing and Wikipedia is not here to further a political cause or "tell the world" about certain activity. The Tuen Mun article as it is written has cause for concern about neutrality. This debate is supposed to run for 7 days. I suggest to let it run for that time and collect further community input. If in the meantime there are additions to the Tuen Mun Park article or other that are appropriate that's fine. If someone wants to start a fresh draft about a wider scope article, that's also fine as long as the topic and sources meet all the usual standards. pseudonym Jake Brockman talk 08:12, 8 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Redirect. It looks like NEWS and one Event. Szzuk (talk) 07:16, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
 * , agree in principle that it makes sense for some "hook" to be there to a section in an article, such as Tuen Mun Park, however "Restoration of Tuen Mun Park" does not appear to be commonname for anything or having ever been widely used. It strikes me as an arbitrary title. Possible rename to "2019 Tuen Mun Park protests" and redir. pseudonym Jake Brockman talk 08:30, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Tuen Mun Park or to redirect pseudonym or Possible rename to "2019 Tuen Mun Park protests" which is Sufficient information exist there, also looks like is not an event. - MA Javadi (talk) 16:46, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Tuen Mun Park (with the history preserved under the redirect) in lieu of deletion. I have no objection to a rename to "2019 Tuen Mun Park protests" and then redirect. My main aim is to preserve the well-sourced article's history so that the content can be merged to either Tuen Mun Park or to a new article about secondary protests as suggested by Jake Brockman and supported by Dasostsu. Cunard (talk) 08:49, 15 July 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.