Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Revolution of Dignity


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The result was keep. Ad Orientem (talk) 02:43, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Revolution of Dignity

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Plain google-search gives us a bunch of events, that were labeled by the media just like that. Virtually any unrest that is occuring nowadays is called "Revolution of Dignity" immediately by its perpetrators, before any solid outcome is clearly visible. The issue is whether this page should remain a disambiguation page, a redirect to one particular event out of a number highlighted by media, or should it be deleted permanently. ВоенТех (talk) 18:55, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
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 *  Keep  as a useful WP:DISAMBIG.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:55, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. To be useful, each linked article must actually mention the term (WP:DABMENTION). As the page and its linked articles currently stand, only one article (Tunisian Revolution) actually uses the phrase. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:21, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note, however, that calling Euromaidan a "revolution of dignity" is supported by books and academic articles.  We should probably clean this one up instead of deleting it.13:32, 27 June 2018 (UTC)E.M.Gregory (talk)
 * Academic sources prior to 2014 do not even mention Ukraine as an example, for it didn't happened there yet. cf "A Revolution of Dignity and Poetry (2012)": "[...] slogan chanted in Tunisia in January, then in Egypt, Yemen, Libya, and Syria". It appears that Honduran President Roberto Suazo was the first to coin the phrase in 1981, using it with a political pretext (referring to his desired election as a "revolution of dignity", which turned out to be another blah-blah-blah, when elected he obviously forgot his promises and nothing really happened.) In 1983 the first book of the same name was published (though in Spanish,) which claimed that Suazo's "revolution of dignity" in Honduras was already fait accompli, which appears to be far from true, meaining that "books and academic articles," which use that phrase seriously instead of just reciting slogans that were used on the streets, are biased to say the least. ВоенТех (talk) 15:18, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks to researchers like Olga Bertelsen, Euromaiden tends to be presented as a pivotal event in a history of mankind, overshadowing the American revolution, the battles of Ivojima and Normandy combined. Folks down there may be driven into a delusion that the entire universe revolves around them. ВоенТех (talk) 17:26, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep -- This is a mere dab-page. Assuming a RS can be found for the application of the title to each of the events, there is no harm in keeping it.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:08, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep as a useful WP:DISAMBIG. I took a close look in response to comments of other editors.  But this term needs a dab-page because the term has been so widely popular.  For example, on Ukraine, see: or Olga Bertelsen, Revolution and War in Contemporary Ukraine: The Challenge of Change (Columbia University Press, 2017) Who describes: " Euromaiden... which came to be known also as the Revolution of Values, or the Revolution of Dignity..." E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:22, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:JUSTDONTLIKEIT is not a valid argument for deletion.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:29, 27 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep if media decides to call every revolution a Revolution of Dignity, then so be it, our job is to record how journalists and outlets are describing these events, even if we disagree. Wikipedia is descriptive, not prescriptive. Ottoshade (talk) 17:57, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

All right, if the result would be to keep, I'd like to ask the admin in charge to rename the article Revolution of dignity for it's not a title of a book or something. ВоенТех (talk) 15:52, 28 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep and clean up. The included entries need to have an article to link to and that Wikipedia article needs to MOS:DABMENTION the "revolution of dignity", "dignity revolution", or whatever. -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:18, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. Is it silly? Maybe. But no less than other monikers. The DAB is useful given various disparate events have been named in this manner.Icewhiz (talk) 11:55, 1 July 2018 (UTC)


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