Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Revolutionary Fascist Party


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  08:07, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Revolutionary Fascist Party

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The Revolutionary Fascist Party never existed, just a web search is enough to see that there is no trace of an italian party with this name. The entire content of the page clearly refers to the Fasci Italiani di Combattimento, the real predecessors of the National Fascist Party. The creation of this page is probably due to the misunderstanding of its author. Scia Della Cometa (talk) 21:50, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 21:57, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 21:57, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 21:57, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete. Wow, thank you for catching this. I just checked the sources used for the article, and you're right, none of them speak of a "Revolutionary Fascist Party" or "Fascist Revolutionary Party", except for one primary source (more on that below). Other than that one, all the sources simply talk about "the Fascists", or explicitly about the Fasci Italiani di Combattimento. Also, several sources were badly misrepresented by the article text, and say things that are quite different from what the article says. This leads me to believe that whoever originally wrote most of the text was prone to misunderstandings. So even if it were not deleted, the article would need to be rewritten.


 * The one source that uses the term "Fascist Revolutionary Party" is the first one - a 1933 English translation of a 1932 text by Mussolini - and the term is only used by that source one time, in passing. Here is the context:


 * "When, in the now distant March of 1919, I [Mussolini] summoned a meeting at Milan through the columns of the Popolo d' Italia of the surviving members of the Interventionist Party who had themselves been in action, and who had followed me since the creation of the Fascist Revolutionary Party (which took place in the January of 1915), I had no specific doctrinal attitude in my mind."


 * That's it. That is the only reference to a "Fascist Revolutionary Party" or "Revolutionary Fascist Party" that I was able to find anywhere. This exact same primary source text is reproduced (word-for-word) in several different books (for example in Mediterranean Fascism), and the article cites those books as if they were separate sources, which they are not. I can only assume that this 1933 translation is using the English word "party" in its older sense of "faction" or "movement" or "group of people" (especially since an "Interventionist Party" is also mentioned, and there was never a party by that name, either). In any case, Wikipedia should definitely not assert the existence of a political party because one primary source from 1933 mentions it once. Ohff (talk) 02:12, 17 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Also, the redirect Fascist Revolutionary Party should be deleted as well. Ohff (talk) 02:18, 17 July 2020 (UTC)


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