Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rhode Island Old Catholicism


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The result was delete. ✗ plicit  03:47, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Rhode Island Old Catholicism

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None of the sources given talk about the subject of the article. The subject clearly fails WP:NCHURCH and is possibly WP:Self-promotion. It is also now an unvoluntary WP:FORK as its original subject was deleted from WP recently. From what I remember, it seems the article has received some copy-paste of some parts of the now deleted (see this AfD) article Church of the Holy Paraclete (see this page move), but there is no crediting. If one looks at the previous versions, it is obvious it is the same subject as Church of the Holy Paraclete (which I remember was at one point renamed "Church of the Holy Spirit" according to the now deleted article). I recommend deletion. Veverve (talk) 14:22, 4 January 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  14:55, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Veverve (talk) 14:22, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Veverve (talk) 14:22, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment -- This sems to cover attempts by the old Catholic denomination, Polish National Catholic Church to establish congregations in one state, some of which survive as part of the mother denomination, while others have gone their own way or dispersed. This is thus an article on an aspect of a small denomination, which we would normally keep, but can we find a merge target for it?  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:10, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 01:13, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: to further support my claim of WP:FORK, I now see that the name at the Wikidata item is "Chapel of the Holy Spirit" (see Q28230654). Veverve (talk) 17:47, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete per nom. Old Catholicism in the United States is not so prominent a religious movement that we need to cover it on a state-by-state basis, nor do there appear to be sources which so analyze it. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:38, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete There are so many problems with this article that it is difficult to decide where to begin so I will start with the personal observation that I grew up in that area as a member of the Polish-descended Catholic community and never once heard "Old Catholics" mean anything other than "the little old ladies who came to weekday Mass to pray the Rosary." Moving on, I note that the supposed mother church for Old Catholics in Rhode Island is a closed church of a different denomination in a different state. Indeed, the article seems to be attempting an A:B and B:C therefore A:C type of argument through the Polish National Catholic Church. That the Old Catholic Church in the entire United States merits neither its own article nor mention in the Old Catholic Church article makes the notability of the denomination in the smallest state doubtful. The final nail in the coffin is that every apparent RS in the article does not refer to specifically Rhode Island Catholicism of any sort. Tl;dr version: Per 's nomination. Eggishorn  (talk) (contrib) 16:25, 24 January 2022 (UTC)


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