Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rhye's and Fall of Civilization (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. No arguments for deletion aside from the nominator. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:06, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Rhye's and Fall of Civilization
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Not notable outside of close-knit videogame fan community. A couple of mentions in reviews, but these specifically deal with the main game, not with exhaustively detailing each mod. There's not enough outside coverage to meet WP:RS. Also, there's the ready-made promotional nature of such coverage, since this article is becoming the *primary* source of info about the mod. ˉˉanetode╦╩ 22:23, 30 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep Per all the press coverage found here. Gary King  ( talk ) 23:17, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Major expansion to a very popular game. Plenty of external links and references including press coverage for notability. -OberRanks (talk) 00:12, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep For reasons above and per WP:CARES - the Civ "close-knit videogame fan community" is large enough to make this article notable (and its inclusion with an official expansion and coverage in mainstream press means it is actually notable outside that community, anyway). — Joseph Roe Tk • Cb, 07:16, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 10:10, 31 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 16:39, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep from the sources foudn by Gary King... i will try to add some myself... Arskwad (talk) 19:54, 31 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep. The sources are good. The claim about promotional nature is confusing: does it say that we should delete this article because it's being used improperly outside Wikipedia? Or that we should delete it because this use may affect the article in the future? Fortunately, we don't seem to have evidence that these future changes are an insurmountable problem. I'm not familiar with any definition of notability that requires article subjects to be well enough known, and if there is one, we should hunt it down before it can breed. How in particular would Wikipedia be better off without having an article on Rhye's and Fall of Civilization at all? --Kiz o r  23:21, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Plenty of press coverage from reliable sources, extremely popular mod for a major icon of pc games, included in an official release of the program, no question of "notability".Cherryblossom1982 (talk) 00:40, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Snow Keep - consensus is pretty clear, and both WP:N and WP:RS are satisfied by the coverage listed above. Let's close up shop and move on. --Teancum (talk) 14:15, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.