Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ricardo (footballer, born June 1976)


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The result was no consensus as to whether the sources represent significant coverage, but nor is there a consensus to delete Star   Mississippi  01:45, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Ricardo (footballer, born June 1976)

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Subject fails WP:SPORTCRIT due to lack of significant coverage. A search per WP:BEFORE did not turn up any significant coverage. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 09:16, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
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 * Comment English sources are limited to wikipedia mirrors and stats sites. Source search would need to be done on South Korean and Brazilian-Portuguese web search engines. Govvy (talk) 09:34, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: Ricardo builded his main career at K League career in South Korea. There is significant coverage in South Korean press. Press coverage about Ricardo, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Footwiks (talk • contribs) 14:45, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Only trivial coverage as far as I can see: (1), (2), (3), (4), and lots of passing mentions. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 19:41, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Ricardo played in K League during 2000-2006. During 2000-2006, Internet news media was still in its infancy. It's natural that Ricardo don't have significant coverage in internet news media.

There is coverage, 1, 2, focused on ricardo. I think that you want it like this. In my opinion, There were many paper coverage, focus on Ricardo during 2000-2006. But many coverage are not converted to the coverage on internet news media. In conclusion, Ricardo is old football player. Please don't judge by the same standard.Footwiks (talk) 02:00, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Google Translate isn't working well on those sources. Per WP:RSUE, can you provide translated quotes demonstrating significant coverage within those sources? BilledMammal (talk) 02:41, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the late reply
 * Source 1, Newspaper article by Kyunghyang Shinmun - South Korean major newspaper 
 * If Ricardo is Korean… ’(2001.07.26 19:46)
 * From offense to defense, they roam the ground flashing in the east and flashing in the west. Wherever he is, he is Unbelievable flexibility and sophisticated technique for a height of 1m89.
 * Perhaps Hiddink, the national team manager, had quite a taste. I wondered how good it would be if I was Korean.
 * Anyang LG's Brazilian mercenary Ricardo (25) is an all-around midfielder with a sense of balance that Hiddink prefers.
 * If the balance seems to be broken in either attack or defense, it will suddenly appear and balance. Lately, I've been hearing goosebumps.
 * He is already leading the team in scoring with 4 goals in the regular league, including the winning goal of Cheon-geum in the match against Samsung in Suwon on the 25th, which was a decisive step in Anyang's competition for leadership.
 * The manager Cho kwangrae made a new attempt at Suwon Samsung. He, who had previously been used as a defensive midfielder, was placed forward as an attacking midfielder with an emphasis on offense. Riccardo's performance exceeded the assistant manager's expectations. Ricardo, who played as a sluggish striker in Brazil, made several decisive scenes with bold and fast forward dribbling and elaborate passing, becoming the starting point of the attack.
 * Source 2, TV News by Seoul Broadcasting System - South Korean major television and radio broadcasters
 * News is about Ricardo's unique goal celebration and his interview.
 * Ricardo said: The Korean players' goal celebrations are almost the same, but I also introduce interesting Brazilian culture such as the samba dance."
 * Footwiks (talk) 13:34, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   11:53, 2 May 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: Still no consensus, would be useful for one of the two keep voters to outline their understanding of the two sources presented, as they both seem very confident they satisfy GNG, which is odd in itself given that firstly, three sources are normally required and secondly and more importantly, they both seem very brief comprising a few sentences each which undermines the strength of the keep arguments presented Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down (talk) 22:01, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Govvy (talk) 08:09, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Govvy (talk) 08:09, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment If you want to save the article, perhaps you need to expand it while you're finding sources. Govvy (talk) 08:10, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - there is significant coverage out there, as shown by the sources located by Footwiks. GiantSnowman 19:01, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Brazil-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:37, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment - I've searched online Portuguese-language sources for this footballer, and I can't find any SIGCOV. However, it's possible that we can only find that in Korean-language sources because his Brazilian footballing career appears to be non-notable. Jogurney (talk) 16:26, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * They are common case, For example, Adilson dos santos is very notalble football player at K League in South Korea, But his Portuguese Wikipedia article was deleted due to notibility. TtThere are so so so many Brazilian expatriate footballers. Non-notability in Brazil doesn't matter.Footwiks (talk)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete. I'm not seeing any WP:SIGCOV - the two sources provided by Footwiks do not appear to be based on Google Translate, and given that no editor has been willing to provide a better translation per WP:RSUE I cannot assume they are. BilledMammal (talk) 02:50, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * What do you mean that they are not based on Google Translate? Both translate for me (right-click translate in Google Chrome). WP:SPORTSCRIT is met with the first (which is already in the article as reference 2). The second is just a mention. Nfitz (talk) 21:11, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - the 2001 reference that Footwiks added to the article after the AFD started meets GNG. As does the other reference that they'd added to the article in 2014 - but the link was broken, so I've pointed to the archived version. Nfitz (talk) 21:22, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


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