Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Riccardo Billi (producer)


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The result was delete. Notability not established. &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 10:58, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Riccardo Billi (producer)

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Seems to be some confusion about who this is. The actor is just Riccardo Billi. See it:Riccardo Billi. The screen capture too in the second reference looks like him or his brother. No evidence it is anyone else.

The other ref is a single mention in an interview talking about something else. Not enough for notability, or even to clearly establish it’s the same or a different person. Whether it is another person it is clearly not an independently notable topic. JohnBlackburne wordsdeeds 11:19, 7 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Riccardo Billi died in 1982


 * Riccardo Billi (producer) is not dead
 * image Riccardo Billi: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Riccardo_Billi
 * Riccardo Billi (producer) is married to Malisa Longo
 * Riccardo Billi (producer) as coproduced Way of the Dragon
 * image Riccardo Billi (producer): http://www.cityonfire.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/0021.png
 * Riccardo Billi (producer) played the bank teller in "Way of the Dragon"
 * Riccardo Billi (produce) comments on Bruce Lee Manía and sends greetings to the European Bruce Lee Club
 * Interview Riccardo Billi (producer),december 2011
 * Malisa Longo and Riccardo Billi (producer)
 * Riccardo Billi(producer) and Bruce Lee in Way of the Dragon
 * https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/194642_112634882187368_2096596299_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9
 * Billi (producer) Norris and Lee in Way of the Dragon
 * https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203713997107400&id=1142020881&set=p.10203713997107400&fs=0
 * https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/581941_404626439558824_245766267_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=b9530bd7647be6ab64537c88d7b440df&oe=57C0133A
 * Riccardo Billi (producer) is a PRODUCER. Riccardo Billi is an ACTOR.
 * http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-e6FnUSNg5Yg/VBF_aIM6pvI/AAAAAAAAP7Y/P5yiDYSH2Lo/s1600/pierina1.jpg
 * Riccardo Billi (producer) Persivalpoint (talk) 13:37, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as none of the above suggests solid notability, both the above and the current article itself. SwisterTwister   talk  16:19, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  SwisterTwister   talk  16:20, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions.  SwisterTwister   talk  16:20, 7 April 2016 (UTC)


 * But SwisterTwister why? this page is similar from this page, but is different from Riccardo Billi (actor)Persivalpoint (talk) 16:55, 7 April 2016 (UTC)


 * more info Persivalpoint (talk) 17:06, 7 April 2016 (UTC)


 * comment none of the above collection of blog + social media links and images changes anything. None is a reliable source. But to address one assertion made, that
 * "Riccardo Billi (producer) is a PRODUCER. Riccardo Billi is an ACTOR"
 * there is nothing to prevent someone being both, and is in fact quite common. Producer is one of those roles like the director of a company that very few people start out doing, but instead usually end up at after doing something else, so an actor can become a producer. In many cases their careers overlap. Also it is highly unusual for different actors to have the same name. To avoid precisely such problems actors are encouraged, or may even be required, to change their name. See e.g. Screen Actors Guild.
 * None of that proves there is only one person, or that there is a producer but he is not an actor. But neither do any of the links above and in the article prove otherwise. And when there is not enough evidence to establish who he is then there is not enough for notability, by a long chalk.-- JohnBlackburne wordsdeeds 18:15, 8 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment. I seriously doubt this person produced Way of the Dragon.  He's not listed in the film's credits.  I just checked the beginning and ending credits on Netflix, and he's not anywhere in them that I can see.  He might have done some production work on the film, but I doubt he's a producer. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:07, 9 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment for NinjaRobotPirate: Can you see

it:Way of The Dragon ( […] Il service che aiutò Lee nelle riprese romane era fornito dal produttore Riccardo Billi[…]).

Magazine CINEMATOGRAFO, March 2008

Poster film by Riccardo Billi (producer)


 * Comment for JohnBlackburne Can you see:

This is a screenshot Way of the Dragon with Bruce Lee, Nora Miao and Riccardo Billi (producer) because ''Way of the Dragon a film 1973 and Riccardo Billi is born 1906 ... This man (1 2 3 4 5…) has not 66 years old.

This is a screenshot film Way of The Dragon + screenshot documentary Bruce Lee: In Pursuit of the Dragon 2009 and Riccardo Billi is died 1982


 * '''Comment for JohnBlackburne, NinjaRobotPirate, SwisterTwister ......:

http://www.davinotti.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=356 = INTERVIEW […]GEPPO: Il produttore del film è Riccardo Billi che non era però l'attore che lavorava in coppia con Mario Riva. MARINA: Bravo Giacomo, è un omonimo. Riccardo Billi, cioè il produttore del film, è il marito di Malisa Longo. […]Persivalpoint (talk) 09:36, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Riccardo Billi (disambiguation) Persivalpoint (talk) 10:42, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Persivalpoint (talk) 16:49, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I have removed the help me template. It does not belong here, and the request is premature. Wait for the discussion to end.-- JohnBlackburne wordsdeeds 17:27, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

OK excuse me Persivalpoint (talk) 18:21, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment, Billi the producer is actually a different person than Billi the actor. While I have not (re)found the specific sources, I read about him, quite trivially, in Italian cinema magazines such as Cine 70 and Nocturno, in articles which basically focused on his wife Malisa Longo and on a film produced by him, Le Amazzoni, which is a mockbuster of War Goddess and which achieved some minor cult status. That said, I don't see enough notability nor enough contents for an article. Outside his marginal involvment in Way of The Dragon, Billi's career as a producer was very thin, he basically just produced a couple of low-budget exploitation films. Maybe a brief mention and a redirect to his wife's article? Cavarrone  12:24, 11 April 2016 (UTC)


 * yes, but for me, maybe a brief mention and a redirect in Riccardo Billi (disambiguation) and a link to his wife's article (Malisa Longo), ok? Persivalpoint (talk) 14:21, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:51, 14 April 2016 (UTC)


 * @NorthAmerica for me this page is ok Persivalpoint (talk) 11:36, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 05:55, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - page created by a sockpuppet of Charliewolf79, a cross-wiki lta. It is probably not accurate, as the nominator pointed out here, and could honestly be speedy deleted. Ajraddatz (talk) 18:50, 21 April 2016 (UTC)


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