Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rich Hollenberg (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. The "long time unsourced" arguments win out.  Daniel  06:00, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Rich Hollenberg
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This TV host fails WP:BIO, since no independent sources are given. Previous nomination half a year ago resulted in "no consensus" with only "weak" arguments after short discussion. But the article has not improved since, no sources have been added. -- Sent here as part of the Notability wikiproject. --B. Wolterding 18:56, 1 July 2007 (UTC) 
 * Keep. This guy seems notable enough; he's apparently had several programs, although his tenure at Daily Sports Source would give him more credibility in my book than the HSN gig. Instead of complaining that he doesn't have sources, why not go about finding him some instead? -Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 19:40, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * You're welcome to add anything you may find, but no one has done so since November 06. --B. Wolterding 23:33, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete No references to verify notability. Keep only if citations are added that assert his notability.  Tdmg 02:18, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletions.   -- John Vandenberg 13:49, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,


 * Weak Keep based on the fact that he was a show host on national networks Corpx 06:40, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not so sure about the situation in the US; in Europe, home shopping networks are rather niche players, even when broadcast nationally, and their hosts are not really well known (and are hardly ever being written about). --B. Wolterding 17:45, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I was mostly referring to co-hosting a show on FSN for 3 years Corpx 19:51, 7 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete per Tdmg. Stifle (talk) 16:43, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete long term unsourced, no evidence of notability, no RS to ensure verifiability. SamBC 21:14, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. it is too easy to get an article created about an individual without notability and seems progressively more difficult to delete it; Wikipedia evolves into a collection of trivia rather than an encyclopedia, which IMHO, is not a good thing. --Storm Rider (talk) 04:41, 14 July 2007 (UTC)


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