Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rich London


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The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 21:54, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Rich London

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Originally tagged speedy, but I bring it here instead. His claim to fame is having a song nominated for a 2007 Juno award; doesn't meet WP:MUSIC as far as I can tell, criterion 8 is "Has won a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury or Grammis award", nominated but not winning is not notable. Carlossuarez46 01:19, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Although he might just pass WP:MUSIC if he's been on a national tour, and Criterio 9 is Has won or placed in a major music competition, which he may have done. Chase me ladies, I&#39;m the Cavalry 02:41, 9 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete If he was nominated, but did not win, then the article fails WP:MUSIC. --Nenyedi Talk Deeds@ 12:10, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. wikipediatrix 18:33, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Juno Awards of 2007 absolutely cannot have an unlinked or unlinkable artist listed within it — anybody whose name appears on that list must be a permissible article topic. We're simply not doing our job as an encyclopedia if we're not allowed to tell our readers who half of the people in an awards shortlist are — and thus I believe that the criterion should be expanded to permit shortlisted nominees and not just winners. (And no, that doesn't open us up that much to abuse; the vast majority of people who make an awards shortlist will already be notable enough for other reasons anyway. But being a Juno or Grammy award nominee should be sufficient in the rare case where it's the only major notability claim that can be made, because the award list absolutely must not contain an unwikified name or a permanent redlink that we're not allowed to write about. And removing the non-winning nominees from the list entirely isn't an acceptable workaround, either.) Keep. Oh, and incidentally, as far as I know his nominated release was an album, not a song. Bearcat 01:31, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per Bearcat. GreenJoe 01:53, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. A nomination for a major award should certainly be sufficient, and if it is unclear, policy should be changed to reflect this. - SimonP 13:32, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per SimonP and Bearcat. Tim Q. Wells 19:29, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Being nominated for the Juno award for recording engineer of the year, CD/DVD artwork designer of the year, or aboriginal recording of the year, does not necessarily make the nominee notable. See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS for the argument X article exists therefore so should Y. The standard for inclusion primarily should be as outlined under WP:N: "A topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Proposed changes to WP:MUSIC should be taken up in it's talk page.  dissolve talk  00:34, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Nobody cited WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS as an argument. Bearcat 01:06, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep per Bearcat. --Gpollock 05:14, 11 August 2007 (UTC)


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