Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Richard Finney


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The result was   Delete. Eluchil404 (talk) 06:51, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Richard Finney

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When I started to investigate the claims in this article, they began coming out a lot less notable than it sounded. So, to take the major claims of notability:


 * 1. Prodcued several films. No, he didn't. That implies he was the producer, he was not. He was one of many producers on a few films, and always had a couple people higher ranked than him. The highest named rank he got he got was co-executve producer on The Pact - but that had five executive producers, and was just a TV movie for the Lifetime network . He was also one of four co-executive producers on a film called "All's Faire in Love", which also had several full executive producers. This is not as notable as it sounds, and it highly inflated, in a manner meant to advertise him


 * 2. Wrote scripts to major movies. No, he did uncredited script work, and the sources for it are unreliable. This is the source for him being on The Puppet Masters: http://www.wordplayer.com/columns/wp15.Building.the.Bomb.html - there is no source for Maximum Risk, and IMDB doesn't credit him. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117011/fullcredits#cast - these are questionable claims, and inflated at best.


 * 3. Lawsuit against Robert Downing Jr: There's a brief mention of it on page 2 of http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2001/02/11/robert-downey-jr-takes-one-day-at-a-time.html - however, again, it gives him sole credit for something he did as part of a group.


 * 4. The books. The books that do not have any coverage in the news or scholarly press whatsoever, and whose publisher uses a blogspot page. See Articles_for_deletion/Demon_Days-Angel_of_Light

Quite simply, this article ridiculously inflates his modest, non-notable achievements. It fails WP:NOTABILITY, has issues with WP:NOTADVERT, and, just for the final issue, this is one of the articles created by paid sockmaster group account Expewikiwriter. See AN.

I think this should be deleted. 86.** IP (talk) 12:06, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. I was looking at the claims of not being mentioned on the Puppet Master script and well, it looks like the reason Finney wasn't credited on the script used in the movie was because he didn't write the script used in the movie. He worked on an alternate copy of the script, one that was pretty much doomed before Finney was brought on to redo it with another writer. From what I gathered in the article, the rewrite was done only done because contractually there had to be a rewrite and there were never true intentions to film the script. So in other words Finney was called in to work on a script that never went anywhere while the original script writers got to work on one that eventually was filmed. All that aside, Finney's mention on the article is insanely brief and is more of an aside than anything else. So considering that this doesn't show notability, we're left with a HorrorNews.net review of one of his books and a link to a site (Screen Writers Utopia) that doesn't appear to be something that would be considered a WP:RS. I'll still look and see what I can find, but I'm leaning towards delete.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 12:25, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. I've looked but there's just nothing out there to show that Finney is a notable person.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 12:28, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:22, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:23, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Commment. I've pared down several of the claims in the article and removed the more overly promotional text.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 12:17, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Tokyogirl. Clearly fails WP:BASIC and WP:AUTHOR. Valfontis (talk) 16:56, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
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