Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Richard Goldberg (Illinois)


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The result was delete. There is a consensus that he fails WP:NPOL, and no attempt has been made to identify which specific sources qualify him to pass WP:GNG. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:00, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Richard Goldberg (Illinois)

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This subject appears to fall short of notability. He was rather nebulously an "advisor", and other than that his article appears to be a string of associations with actually notable people (e.g., he "works closely with" a U.S. Special Representative, and was an advisor or staffer to various politicians). These placements are not sufficient to garner notability, which is not WP:INHERITED from employers or advisees. BD2412 T 18:24, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.  BD2412  T 18:24, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  19:25, 16 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete. Fails WP:NPOL, which AFAICS is the only relevant SNG; also fails WP:BASIC. AleatoryPonderings (???) / (!!!) 22:13, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, As the Director for Countering Iranian Weapons of Mass Destruction at White House’s National Security Council, Richard Goldberg is definitely independently notable. He satisfies WP:INHERITED, WP:NPOL, ... I will add the reliable sources to the article. AbDaryaee (talk) 16:37, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
 * How can WP:INHERITED be satisfied? It is an essay explaining that notability cannot be inherited. Besides, WP:NPOL is not satisfied as Goldberg has never held public office. - Tristan Surtel (talk) 18:22, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete He WP:INHERITED his notability. Needs to delete. 122.60.173.107 (talk) 07:34, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment, With respect to all, I believe Mr. Goldberg is considered notable for his position in the White house. AbDaryaee (talk) 16:58, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
 * This is basically repeating what you have already said above. However, having a position in the White House does not automatically confer notability on an individual. The subject in this case was not subject to Senate confirmation, nor were they in a position directly appointed by the President, and solely reporting to the President. BD2412  T 17:17, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
 * The executive office of the president of the United States has 4000 employees. A huge number of them have some titles, and lots of them rotate a lot. Clearly they are not all notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:32, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete a non-notable political functionary.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:30, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:MILL - staff in the Trump WH come and go so often, and they have so little authority to do anything, that Rachel Maddow has a wall of their names in tiny print, and they are the object of ridicule on Twitter and late night shows. We are not a LinkedIn for desperate WH staff who know they are about to be fired by tweet. Bearian (talk) 22:08, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete we are not "linkedin" for political types which is how it reads now, and not otherwise notable. SportingFlyer  T · C  17:25, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep- 9 refs for a small article. Dswitz10734 (talk) 23:58, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - I see what appear to be at least 5 apparently-RS in the citations, which should make it clear that WP:GNG is satisfied. WP:NPOL is therefore irrelevant. WP:INHERITED seems to be being invoked in the sense of "they're only notable because X" - which is an argument to avoid. - The Bushranger One ping only 09:09, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Seeing reliable sources in the citations doesn't mean that those sources discuss the subject in depth. Which sources here are both reliable and provide substantial coverage of the subject? BD2412  T 16:19, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete non-notable functionary, lacks SIGCOV in multiple RS to meet WP:GNG. Mztourist (talk) 09:49, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment. If it is kept, it definitely needs renaming. Mr Goldberg is most certainly not an Illinois! -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:14, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. per AleatoryPonderings and Bearian. BlueD954 (talk) 04:04, 25 November 2020 (UTC)


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