Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Richard Jones (British diplomat)


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The result was no consensus. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 20:40, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Richard Jones (British diplomat)

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Ambassadors are not inherently notable. Notability (politics) proposes that diplomatic notability should be a person who has "received significant coverage in crafting an international agreement or related to a notable diplomatic event. That doesn't appear to be the case here. Uhooep (talk) 10:05, 7 February 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Salvio giuliano 12:20, 14 February 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 14:11, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians and United Kingdom. Shellwood (talk) 11:59, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bilateral relations and Albania.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 13:36, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:BIO. Could only find coverage for namesakes. LibStar (talk) 23:45, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. Ambassadors these days are mostly just stuffed shirts who say only what they are told to say, but their statements are reported, and readers may ask "who is this guy?" His role during the flap over the Swiss vote to restrict free movement of people could be seen as related to a notable diplomatic event. A quick search turned up Immigration vote: Dark clouds, «Wir warten auf Lösungsvorschläge», Immigration: "L'UE ne bluffe pas", avertit son ambassadeur en Suisse, EU ambassador warns over immigration vote, EU ambassador pushes hard line, RICHARD JONES Ambassador of the EU and Switzerland: the way ahead. Aymatth2 (talk) 16:00, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * of those additional sources, Jones is not the subject of most of those, it's more about the bilateral relations. This one is the only one which Jones is the actual subject and could be considered in depth coverage. LibStar (talk) 05:05, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
 * The article cites a Who's Who entry (that I cannot access) and an EU CV, which would also count. I just tried . Presumably a more careful search would turn up more. Aymatth2 (talk) 14:18, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
 * On WP:RSP Who's Who is called "generally unreliable". JohnmgKing (talk) 13:49, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep Per Aymath2. If he wasn't notable he wouldn't have made the Who's Who 2014 list.♦ Dr. Blofeld  08:34, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment Pretty much every diplomat, circuit judge and district judge in the United Kingdom is included in Who's Who. I don't think inclusion by itself makes them all notable. Uhooep (talk) 12:21, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Notability is not a very high bar. The subject just has to be discussed in some depth by more than one reliable independent source. In this case, we have found three online sources that give short biographies, and several others that report what the subject said. It is all very mundane, but enough to justify an article. Probably many of those diplomats, circuit judges and district judges could have articles too, if anyone cared to start them. There is plenty of room in Wikipedia. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:15, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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