Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Richard Smith (Muay Thai fighter)


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The result was   delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 23:37, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Richard Smith (Muay Thai fighter)

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Subject lacks significant coverage in independent sources and fails to meet the notability criteria at WP:MANOTE. The only sources for this article are the subject's home page and a youtube video. The only supported notability claim is the video showing him winning the WKA Commonwealth middleweight kickboxing championship. The article's list of "notable" fighters he's fought (none of whom have WP articles) is WP:NOTINHERITED. If additional supported claims of notability are added I would be happy to change my opinion.


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Papaursa (talk) 18:47, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 13:14, 9 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete Winning the WKA Commonwealth championship does not meet the notabilily criteria set by the kickboxing task force or at WP:MANOTE. As far as notability as a coach goes, the subject fails to meet WP:GNG because there appears to be a lack of reliable independent sources. Astudent0 (talk) 18:09, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment I think a short bio of Richard Smith would have been better under Bad Company Thai Boxing Gym which is notable under WP:MANOTE because people like Liam Harrison (kickboxer), Jordan Watson (misspelt) and Andy Howson fight out of it and have achieved international success. Unfortunately it was speedy deleted before I could bulk it up into more than just a stub. I should point out that I know Richard Smith personally so I'm not going to vote one way or another, and my opinion is that it would be better merged into an article about the Bad Company gym which is notable. mh. (talk) 18:51, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * If you want to work on an article, it's probably better if you do it your sandbox first. Make sure the topic is notable and has good, reliable, and independent sources before you put it into the article space.  A frequent problem with martial arts articles is claims of championships with no supporting evidence except for something like someone's home page.  I don't know if the Bad Company gym is notable or not, but I do think it will need better sources than those provided for this article. Papaursa (talk) 03:24, 11 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete Article lacks independent sources that show he's notable as a fighter. Mdtemp (talk) 15:33, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
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