Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Richard Thomas (author)


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) – Davey 2010 Talk 17:09, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Richard Thomas (author)

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This article was mentioned at AN/I as having repeatedly needed to have promotional material cut out: see WP:Administrators' noticeboard/incidents. All the references were primary. In searching for references to add, I have found only brief mentions, and the only awards listed are nominations, mostly as editor/publisher. I don't believe he meets WP:AUTHOR. Yngvadottir (talk) 21:24, 24 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep Being published by Random House is a pretty good start. Deletion now might be very short-sighted indeed.  He is on the final ballot for a "Bram Stoker" award - which is a major genre award.  which Kirkus reviewed .   Co-editor was Chuck Palahniuk which appears notabe as a claim as well.  Cheers. Collect (talk) 22:03, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
 * The Random House publications are e-books (as well as still being forthcoming). The Bram Stoker nomination is as co-editor of the collection; he's barely mentioned in that Kirkus review. I'm still not seeing notability, although I'm happy to see other editors finding additional sources (and although he is frequently mentioned in blogs and e-zines as a respected editor and fellow writer). I'm hoping someone will turn up an actual article or two about him. Yngvadottir (talk) 23:26, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I would point out that e-books are now a major part of the publishing industry, and we ignore them at out peril. Philip Jones, editor-in-chief of the Bookseller, noted a 15% average growth in ebook sales across the main publishers.  No sign of seasonal variations (which occur in the book industry) affecting the long term growth of the sector. One factor appears to be rising prices for ebooks, it appears.  Collect (talk) 23:37, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
 * now understands what we need and has found some reviews that I've added to the article. Also they won the Best Short Story Collection award they were nominated for - announced yesterday, reference added. It's looking better, but do we have a notability criterion for editors? He's been getting nominated for awards as (co-)editor rather than for his own writing, which to my mind leaves WP:GNG if we can amass reviews for the previous books and/or individual short stories. Yngvadottir (talk) 03:50, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note that WP:AUTHOR is about "Authors, editors, journalists, filmmakers, photographers, artists, architects, and other creative professionals". It lists nothing about winning awards, but I assume that is implicit in making an impact. Choor monster (talk) 11:54, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep I chose clean up over AfD since the BLP gave the impression of probably being notable enough, and I really just wanted to stop the SPA. Would the OP consider waiting a week and consider AfD again? Choor monster (talk) 23:13, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:41, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:41, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 *  Keep changed opinion to speedy keep Awards, Kirkus review, plus a Random House e-book is still an edited, Random House book.E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:25, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 00:32, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * - You now have a week to tidy/improve the article.... So I suggest you do so, I'm somewhat lost as to why you've done nothing to the article since the 25Feb, Anyway I'm not closing as Keep as either way you now have an entire week anyway. I also suggest no one else closes this as such either seeing as the !Keeps (exc Collect) are pretty poor. – Davey 2010 Talk 00:59, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * What on earth??? My interest in this is extremely marginal.  I found an article that was packed with NOTHERE by an SPA determined to keep it that way, so I asked for help on ANI, is all.  We only need one good argument for Keep, why would I bother to repeat what Collect said?  But if you like: winning a Bram Stoker, however marginal the category, seems absolutely conclusive to me.  That's more notable than all our Yo-yo champions combined.  As it is, I limited my comment to the fact that the AfD seemed to be an interfering sideshow, not a prod to improve.
 * As to what I've been doing this past week, I've been working on things I find interesting, both on and off WP. Choor monster (talk) 01:54, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * - Shit sorry I'd misread your post completely!, Think I'm losing the plot. – Davey 2010 Talk 04:38, 5 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep Just close it already. Article has been cleaned up since nomination to the point where - although it could use better sourcing - it is an obvious keep.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:51, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
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