Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Richert Vogt von Koch


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  04:59, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Richert Vogt von Koch

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No sources in article, only good source on svwiki is a short mention in Nordisk Familjebok in connection to his father. Doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:NBIO. AlexandraAVX (talk) 07:52, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Military,  and Sweden. AlexandraAVX (talk) 07:52, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for flagging this. I've now inserted a bibliography of this individual's novels and other selected publications. It seems notable that several of these work are available online via Gothenburg University (https://gupea.ub.gu.se/handle/2077/57909). Andrew.T.Levin (talk) 16:35, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. The sourcing in the article is, as AlexandraAVX points out, admittedly weak. The English article just points to the Swedish article, where the sourcing isn't as extensive as the English note claims. But there are other good sources easily accessible, and with this biography in Svenska män och kvinnor : biografisk uppslagsbok and this biography in Svenskt biografiskt handlexikon, we have multiple sources (more extensive than in Nordisk Familjebok) and good proof that he was a person who was repeatedly considered notable enough to be included in various encyclopedic works. /Julle (talk) 14:43, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks to Julle for flagging these encyclopedia entries, which have now been added as citations in this wiki page. Andrew.T.Levin (talk) 20:01, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 03:44, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for raising these issues. The wikipage for Niels Fabian Helge von Koch (the mathematician who formulated the Koch snowflake) has had a longstanding red link for his father Richart Vogt von Koch, so I added content to that empty wikipage using information from the corresponding Swedish page (https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richert_Vogt_von_Koch). BTW, the editors of the Swedish wiki pages didn't raised any concern that this individual is sufficiently noteworthy as a Swedish historical figure; indeed, the Swedish wikipage includes citations of a number of novels and other publications authored by this individual. Should those novels be listed on the English wikipage? Does it matter whether any of those works have been translated into English? More generally, is it possible for a Swedish historical figure to merit a Swedish wikipage but not an English-language wikipage? BTW, I have 100+ edits but not the 500-edit threshold required to use the Wiki Translate Tool (which would automatically convert all of the bibliography entries and references from the Swedish wikipage to the English wikipage). Could either of you recreate this wikipage using that Translate Tool, and then I'll be glad to help ensure that the translation is comprehensible? Again, many thanks!! Andrew.T.Levin (talk) 15:51, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Each language version of Wikipedia decides its own policies and guidelines, so, in principle, it is possible to qualify for a Swedish page but not an English one. As far as the English criteria go it doesn't make any difference whether works have been translated into English, and sources can be in any language. I have not looked at this particular case, except to say that his son is ultra-notable, as anyone who has made even a cursory study of fractals will tell you. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:19, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Ignoring Swedish Wikipedia, I'd argue Richert Vogt von Koch passes WP:GNG. /Julle (talk) 22:31, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep per the sources identified by Julle above. Mccapra (talk) 07:04, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep - per improvements made since now. Per WP:GNG.BabbaQ (talk) 19:01, 2 March 2024 (UTC)


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