Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rick Devin


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The result was   Delete. EdJohnston (talk) 02:21, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Rick Devin

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Page seems to have been initially created as an autobiography by User:Rickdevin. When, in 2006, somebody left a talk page message about autobiographies and their possible drawbacks, he responded by offering to have his "record company executives" resubmit the article. Nothing in the article (which is almost entirely referenced by his own webpage) indicates an ability to pass WP:MUSIC and my research didn't find anything that could support his notability. Don't be fooled by the claim (sourced, of course, by his webpage) of "three Grammy entries." This is the initial stage of the Grammy nomination process and it consists of submitting your work to NARAS for consideration. Movingboxes (talk) 23:58, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

turned up one false drop and one probable relevant hit from The Colorado Springs Gazette where he is mentioned thus: "Manager Rick Devin is the featured musician at most evening concerts;" "- Katie Johnston. 'Singer-songwriter Michael Martin Murphey is cowboy to the core.' ENTERTAINMENT SECTION. July 6, 2001" This, to me, falls under the "barely notable" category as he is mentioned only once, seven years ago, in an article about someone else. Delete for that, and all the WP:COI and WP:AUTO stuff. --Quartermaster (talk) 00:53, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. A search of LexisNexis Academic for the phrase "Rick Devin" and the word "musician," going back 100 years (i.e., the entire database), and covering
 * Major U.S. and World Publications
 * Major World Publications (non-English)
 * News Wire Services
 * TV and Radio Broadcast Transcripts
 * Weak Delete despite a couple of GNews hits | here. I can't find anything from reliable 3rd party sources which prove more than his existence. Jasynnash2 (talk) 08:55, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   -- the wub  "?!"  08:56, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. Of the 15 | Gnews hits to which you point, two of them are duplicates of the Colorado Springs Gazette article I cite above, there is one new brief mention of a cowboy musician Devin in a 1999 Gazette article, and all other hits are false drops about a Rick Devin who is a librarian and artist from Rhode Island, and a Rick Devin from Florida. --Quartermaster (talk) 12:39, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * So nothing "from reliable 3rd party sources which prove more than his existence". just like we already said. Jasynnash2 (talk) 13:06, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

I have tried to see if I can assist in clearing up some of the items that are confusing for Rick Devin being included within wikipedia, I am somewhat new to this process, and I hope that I am conforming to your guidelines. I found several online news articles about Rick Devin, which I just added/edited onto the wikipage page that is in question. I hope that these will assist in your decision making to not delete him. One can be found at and an other at. Additionally, I agree that his 'consideration' for a Grammy Award is not news worthy for inclusion within Wikipedia and I deleted that information - If he had been a top finalist or something, okey, but... Also, I substituted some of the rickdevin.com links with links to allmusicguide.com, I hope that that is also of assistance. Thank you, sincerely, Linda Norden. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redcloudrecords (talk • contribs) 17:20, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - a autobiography of a musician who has kept himself employed, but hasn't garnered any notability -- Whpq (talk) 16:26, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - The later article is essentially a cut and paste profile pulled out of the first article. -- Whpq (talk) 17:26, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


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