Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rick Waugh


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to United States House of Representatives elections in Virginia, 2010. The consensus is to redirect until there is either significant coverage of Waugh at independent reliable sources, and/or until he wins the election --  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 20:46, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Rick Waugh
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Political candidate fails WP:POLITICIAN. See related discussion of his opponent at Articles for deletion/Floyd C. Bayne. I attempted a bold redirect per precedent (e.g. Articles for deletion/Craig Weber, Articles for deletion/Rami Bader (politician), Articles for deletion/Naheed Nenshi, Articles for deletion/Billy Coyle, Articles for deletion/Mike Kelly (Pennsylvania), Articles for deletion/Lisa Johnston, Articles for deletion/Ann Marie Buerkle (Politician)), however, the redirect to United States House of Representatives elections in Virginia, 2010 was reverted. Location (talk) 03:16, 23 October 2010 (UTC) THIS IS GARBAGE. ERIC CANTOR IS JUST HAVING HIS OPPONENTS' PROFILES TAKEN DOWN. JUST ANOTHER DIRTY TRICK FROM ERIC CANTOR. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Richmonder (talk • contribs) 01:17, 26 October 2010 (UTC) — Richmonder (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Virginia-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 13:07, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 13:07, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect per nom. This one is open and shut. Ray  Talk 18:04, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Ray this is not open and shut. Rick Waugh like his opponent Floyd Bayne is notable as he has been covered by all major media in the Virginia 7th district, has been reported in national news (Waugh covered by the Rachel Madow show) just like Floyd bayne has been covered by all major media in the district and national media (Bayne has also been covered in international media). So both candidates are notable. 96.228.59.55 (talk) 13:07, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * KEEP at this time. He was elected in the primary election. Flatterworld (talk) 15:34, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * No, he was not. He was nominated by party leaders . This is the second time you have claimed someone was "elected" in a primary election when in fact they were not. Please get your facts straight before citing them here. --MelanieN (talk) 16:09, 26 October 2010 (UTC)


 * COMMENT. This request is taking the wrong path. The proper path is to use the Template:Merge to and Template:Merge from templates, invite all those involved in both articles, and discuss the issue until consensus is reached. There's no need for a rush to judgement in any of these cases. (Note: One person requesting a Merge is not a consensus, see Ed Potosnak example.)That's why these Merge Templates exist, and that's why they're (normally) used when the issue involves (but not necessarily limited to) a claim that a person is notable only for one event. If consensus is reached, then an actual merge of material rather than a simple delete, or even a delete and redirect, is done. See Scott Harper for an example of this. See Ann Marie Buerkle for an example of the opposite, showing no history at all of what was in the previous article. That article was actually deleted, then a redirect was added after the fact. That's why it's wrong to do deletes in these cases, and that's been the consensus achieved in many, many AfD requests for various political candidates over the years. An example of a non-merge redirect is Lisa Johnston (AfD consensus here). That's simply wrong, as a nominee notable even for an event still has notable information - it's just a question of where it belongs. There is no evidence of any actual merge of material in her case, which makes the election article shockingly unbalanced (aka Undue Weight). There seems to be a lot of confusion on the definition of 'merge' in these discussions. It is not a synonym for a redirect. There are two steps, and both must be taken. Or, the article should be allowed to continue to exist, with 'improvement tags' added as needed. Flatterworld (talk) 15:34, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge per usual practice. The only article cited about him, in the Richmond Times-Dispatch, even describes him as "little-known". There's a reliable source telling us he is not notable! --MelanieN (talk) 16:09, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * P.S. If 96.228.59.55 can provide links to all this coverage s/he claims, such as an appearance by Waugh on the Rachel Maddow show, I might change my opinion. --MelanieN (talk) 16:35, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Melanie, I never claimed Waugh was on the Rachel Maddow Show. I said his campaign was covered by the Rachel Maddow Show. His campaign was covered regarding his campaign signs being targeted with racial slurs. All You Had to do was SEARCH "RICK WAUGH RACHEL MADDOW" and walla http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/08/24/4963103-ugly-and-almost-misspelled-in-virginia Ray and others on wiki appear to be to lazy to do Google word search's 96.228.59.55 (talk) 20:03, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks for the link. (And just a tip, you will get a lot further here by supplying links to support his notability - rather than name-calling others for not finding them.) The link appears to be from the Maddow BLOG, rather than the Maddow show, but it is still a hint toward more general notability. Have you got any more like that? --MelanieN (talk) 01:16, 27 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete or redirect to United States House of Representatives elections in Virginia, 2010. As with Bayne, he will be notable if he wins. The Eskimo (talk) 20:14, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * redirect Lets redirect this article. This candidate is less notable than Floyd Bayne is and hes the democrat. If you redirected Mr. Bayne's then you need to redirect Mr. Waugh.s Fair is Fair. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Libertyactivist (talk • contribs) 14:27, 29 October 2010 (UTC)  — Libertyactivist (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.  Also, Libertyactivist went ahead and redirected the article, even though this AfD discussion is still going on. The redirect was reverted. --MelanieN (talk) 04:03, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * the discussion seemed to be over and an administrator told me that anyone could do a redirect. Plus this article is just as notable or un-notable, depending on your opinion, or less notable than the Floyd Bayne article, so it should suffer the same fate. We need to move this process on. I hope nobody is trying to keep this article through the election but not the Bayne one. I would hope and pray no one would do thaton Wiki. I like wiki. Lots to learn:) Libertyactivist (talk) 19:30, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * You may want to read Articles for deletion before participating in Afds. It's generally not proper to redirect an article during an open Afd. As far as closing, Afds usually last 7 days so you can expect this one to close very soon. Location (talk) 19:38, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.