Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ricky Elmore (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Stifle (talk) 13:49, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Ricky Elmore
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This page was deleted after discussion at Articles for deletion/Ricky Elmore. I participated in that discussion (originally with a position of keep, which I struck later.) After completing steps outlined in WP:BEFORE, I do not see sufficient reason to reinstate the article at this time and find no measure of notability that the subject passes. I sent the article to WP:PROD which was overturned. I believe this is a procedural delete more than anything else, but I encourage the full discussion to take place. Because of my involvement in the original discussion and my belief that this should be procedural, I ask the closing admin to consider me neutral on the subject. Paul McDonald (talk) 22:31, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Paul McDonald (talk) 22:36, 21 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep The sources in the article along with is enough to pass GNG to me.--Yankees10 22:39, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Rcsprinter123    (commune)  @ 20:07, 28 January 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Keep per the sources found by - Passes GNG. – Davey 2010 Talk 06:07, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment - Subject player clearly does not satisfy the specific notability guidelines for college athletes per WP:NCOLLATH (no major/national awards) or for pro football players per WP:NGRIDIRON (never played a regular season game in NFL, CFL, etc.). Subject's notability rises or falls on the general guidelines per WP:GNG, which requires significant coverage in multiple, independent reliable sources.  Independent sources linked above by Yankees10 include one hometown article about his college career, one 3-question Q&A profile in another home state newspaper, a pre-bowl bullet-point profile in hometown newspaper of the Alamo Bowl, and hometown newspaper stories in Miami (a blog, actually) and Milwaukee (local sports column).  Yes, based on existing sources, you can make an argument that the subject technically satisfies GNG, but you can also make the argument that all of the listed coverage is either routine or is heavily discounted because it's all local.  Per WP:GNG, technical satisfaction of GNG is a pre-condition, but not a guarantee of inclusion of a stand-alone article.  The best coverage of the subject is about him trying to make an NFL pro team, which he failed to do -- where is the encyclopedic content?  Can anyone find more significant coverage of his college football career (a sport that he actually played) to convince me to "keep" this article?  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 21:23, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, N ORTH A MERICA 1000 04:14, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. The sources cited above by Yankees10 constitute significant coverage, i.e., they are articles focused on Elmore rather than routine passing references in game coverage.  The sources also cover a wide geographic area with articles from outlets in Wisconsin, Arizona, Florida, Oklahoma and Texas.  This one passes muster under WP:GNG. Cbl62 (talk) 01:00, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
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