Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Right-wing terrorism


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete. -- Drini 03:33, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Right-wing terrorism
Irremediably prejudiced in its concept and preposterously biased (also notice that a substantial part of the content was added by anon editors.) Both this and the Left-wing terrorism page have to go, definitely. A more comprehensive article addressing general features of Political terrorism (expanding the current one) would be more than enough.Xemoi 19:39, 13 May 2006 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|20px]] Keep per my comments in Articles for deletion/Left-wing terrorism. Aplomado  talk 19:43, 13 May 2006 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|20px]] Delete. As has already been discussed, the sole intention of this "article" is clearly to push for a politically sectarian point. It's not just about POV, but also the original idea, the article's name, the disputed examples, the inevitable and arbitrary attribution of a left- or right- wing ideology to this or that "terrorist" group, etc. I wouldn't object to a merge into Political terrorism (as has been suggested), though. Justice III 19:51, 13 May 2006 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|20px]] Delete E.Cogoy 20:01, 13 May 2006 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|20px]] Keep. Little attempt has been made to resolve the POV problems (if indeed they exist) on the talk page). There is a posible arguement for merging and turning into redirect rather then deleting (though I'm not 100% convinced) but the content is realitivly sound.--JK the unwise 20:22, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|20px]]Delete I don't see how this term can be used in a non-POV way. We have at least three different things being called "right-wing terorism", one of which is already covered at State terrorism. In addition to that one, we have racist actions grouped with religious ones, which IMO causes real problems with even describing them as parts of a valid common term. (Why are actions motivated by Christian fanaticism called right-wing, but actions by Islamic fanaticism aren't specifically labeled left or right?) Fan1967 20:34, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|20px]]Delete. [Same comment as for left-wing terrorism]. Any categorisation into "left-wing" or "right-wing" is inherently POV, since the use of these terms is disputed in many cases. Having this categorisation in an article title itself is even worse, and will inevitably lead to pointless edit wars (and indeed cases where it simply isn't clear which -- if either -- of left-wing terrorism and right-wing terrorism an organization should be listed on). Cadr 21:07, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|20px]] Delete. Couldn't agree more with Cadr. -- WGee 00:28, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|20px]] Delete POV garbage. Not encyclopedic. --Tbeatty 01:13, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|20px]] Delete. The problem isn't the content per se, but that the topical description begs the question. The editors should consider restructuring things and either folding it into other articles on terrorism or creating a new one around "political pretexts for terrorism" or some such title. While I appreciate the effort of creating balance, I don't think it'll work here. --Leifern 02:15, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|20px]] Delete As per above. Ultramarine 03:05, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|20px]]Delete. Rebecca 04:07, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|20px]] Delete POV Trash. michael talk 06:03, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|20px]] Delete per above. -- I@n &equiv; talk 09:01, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|20px]] Strong Delete  Hauser 10:24, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|20px]] Delete Terrorists blow things up because they like the "KABOOM".  What excuse they use is irrelevent. Rick Norwood 15:30, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|20px]] Strong delete per above. 1652186 17:34, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|20px]] Delete. I believe that this article should be deleted but some of its content should be included in the article on terrorism.  Terrorism is practiced in very similar manners regardless of whether it is considered 'left-wing' or 'right-wing,' though the the goals may be different (hence, the only real difference I see is teleological, and this does not require two separate articles).  Furthermore, due to the nature of terrorism as both an ambiguous term and as a decentralized means of waging war, it is often the case that it is nearly impossible to ascertain whether a particular terrorist/terrorist movement is explicitly left or right-wing, it certainly possible to combine the two (radical socialism and religious fundamentalism are not necessarily mutually exclusive).  Having this as a separate article seems too NPOV and relies too heavily on arbitrary and overgeneralized political terms.  If placed in the terrorism article, there could be a section discussing how terrorism tends to originate from groups operating on the 'far-left' and 'far-right' and emphasize that it is more due to the radical overall nature of the ideology behind it than whether those engaging in the practice are liberals or conservatives. --The Way 20:24, 14 May 2006 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Symbol merge vote.svg|20px]] Merge into political terrorism. There is some useful information in this article, and the term is present in serious discussion (see Google Books). Warofdreams talk 22:51, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol merge vote.svg|20px]] Merge into political terrorism. --Aldux 23:38, 14 May 2006 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|20px]] Delete, what Cadr said --Bletch 23:55, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete --cj | talk 04:54, 15 May 2006 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Symbol merge vote.svg|20px]] Merge into political terrorism. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:18, 15 May 2006 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Symbol merge vote.svg|20px]] Merge to political terrorism is good Yuckfoo 17:56, 16 May 2006 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Symbol merge vote.svg|20px]] Title alone is POV: merge into political terrorism. Sandy 00:21, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Comments:
 * The terms "Right-wing" and "Left-wing" are definable, and so is "terrorism." Why is it impossible to write an NPOV article about terrorists whose aims are either right-wing or left-wing? George W. Bush will inherently have POV issues, Vietnam War will in herently have POV issues, Socialism will inherently have NPOV issues. That's not a reason to ax them. Aplomado  talk 20:37, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Interestingly, the article at Right-wing makes no mention of race, which is central to a number of the groups cited here. That article also says identifying fascism as right-wing is disputed, while this one lists groups who fall under that label. That's the problem when you try to use broad labels. Fan1967 20:43, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
 * "Right-wing" and "Left-wing" are more often defined basically to disparage opposite groups. They are anachronic and almost useless labels in modern political science and only serve ideological agendas. Using this kind of pseudoscientific junk will just stuff unwanted GIGO into a subject as serious as terrorism.Xemoi 20:53, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
 * The difference is that the only purpose of articles titled left-wing terrorism and right-wing terrorism is to partion groups according to the labels "left-wing and "right-wing"; all of the material in these articles is already covered in articles on the groups in question. Contrast this with articles like George W. Bush which will probably always be contraversial, but not have their raison d'etre be hinged on a single POV question.  The same argument could be made about hypothetical articles such as Left-wing US administrations, List of spicy foods, and so on. --Bletch 16:32, 15 May 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.