Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Right to a family


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Consensus is to blow it up. czar ⨹   03:54, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Right to a family

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Procedural nomination. I'm listing this for AFD because it was prodded two days ago by User:MelanieN and then endorsed by User:Bearian (no relation), but then an editor with no prior edit history removed the prod tags without actually adding any real substance to the article to resolve the issues. MelanieN's original prod rationale was "Basically no content. Article has no references and consists of a single POV sentence. I can't think of any likely target for a redirect", at a time when the article looked like this; Bearian's supporting endorsement was "This concept exists, however, it's not widely recognized. I'm something of an expert on LGBT rights, but I'm aware of only a single scholarly article on the topic. See WP:TOOSOON and WP:OR." The deprodder added a bunch of main links of varying relevance to the article (incest?), but almost nothing in the way of actual substance.

Indeed it might be possible to write and reliably source a genuinely substantive article about this, so I'm certainly willing to withdraw this nomination if somebody can actually figure out how to get there from here — but right now, this isn't an actual article about anything at all, let alone an article about any actual recognized human right. Rather, it's just a contextless and unsourced and extremely synthesized list of links to other articles that may or may not have anything whatsoever to do with the actual topic, and we should probably nuke and pave it. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 07:01, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete: I believe I found the article Bearian is referencing; I agree that this seems to be the only one that uses the name of the subject in reference to it. Searching possible search terms reveals plenty of uses of the phrase 'right to a family', however pretty much all of them use it as a concept and not as a topic; that is, they don't comment on the right to a family, but simply assert it. Looking at the possible sources, I just can't see enough there to make an article out of, even a stub. I agree with the prod nom and endorser's assessments: WP:OR and WP:TOOSOON, with a touch of WP:MADEUP. Delete, without prejudice for recreation when more substantial sources exist.  07:26, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:TNT per nom, unless revamp massively. For future editors' reference: Human Rights Education Associates article. Also related is Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights. That earlier this week an illegal immigrant threatened to torch his family was allowed to stay in the UK by argument of right to family might be relevant as an example case, but WP:NOTNEWS may also apply against that.  野狼院 ひさし  Hisashi Yarouin 07:42, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete -- I stand by my prior comments. Bearian (talk) 13:48, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Me too. Thanks to Bearcat for moving this forward. MelanieN (talk) 22:03, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep news searchnews search

Right to a family(가족구성권) is important LGBT issue in South Korea. There are about 700 references.

Also, there are many English language reference about 'right to marry' and 'right to found a family'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.228.78.103 (talk) 23:25, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I acknowledged right up front that the possibility existed of writing a real article about this topic. But this article, as currently written, is one of the worst things I've seen in over a decade of contributing to Wikipedia, and thus even if we do want an article about this we still need to delete this version first — we're better off starting over from scratch than we would be trying to build on this version of an article about it. And incidentally, to the extent that an article about this might be possible, it's not a uniquely LGBT issue — it absolutely touches on stuff like same-sex marriage and parenting rights, but it's a universal issue that applies to all people regardless of sexuality. Bearcat (talk) 07:47, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica1000 12:46, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.