Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rigor Sardonicous


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The result was   keep.  MBisanz  talk 23:16, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Rigor Sardonicous

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Not sure about this one, the article claims that this band is one of the oldest, continually active Doom Metal bands in the United States. This could be considered an assertion of notability but unless I'm missing something, I couldn't find anything to verify that with - in fact there's nothing referenced that's clearly a third party, non-trivial source. Google only turns up their official website, this article, Myspace, and a few pages with their lyrics, but nothing that would qualify under WP:RS. Additionally their record label is red-linked, and I found two separate labels when I searched for "Paragon Records," neither of which appear to be notable. Looks like this fails WP:MUSIC to me.... Mister Senseless&trade; (Speak - Contributions) 01:19, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Author's Comment: The Allmusic page and the Encyclopedia Metallum page state the band started in 1988, .These sourses are definitely non-trivial.There are two labels under the name "Paragon Records".The first is a metal label to which Rigor Sardonicous are signed , the other label is dedecated to rap music.Blackless  —Preceding undated comment added 01:49, 27 February 2009 (UTC).


 * |SARDONICOUS&sql=11:jzfixq8sldfe~T1 The allmusic link might qualify as non-trivial. this however, is a listing in a directory with a one sentence blurb - this would be considered trivial under WP:MUSIC. Mister Senseless&trade; (Speak - Contributions) 01:57, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment. The sources only need to be non-trivial if you want to use the WP:GNG to determine notability. If you consider "one of the oldest, continually active Doom Metal bands in the US" a claim of notability, you only need a single reliable source no matter how trivial to make the statement. (As an alternative example: charted singles are notable too per WP:MUSIC. The fact they charted is often easily confirmed, but the sources to do so are clearly trivial mentions, it's the information that is being mentioned that is relevant.) - Mgm|(talk) 09:59, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep, passes WP:MUSIC on the star rated Allmusic reviews alone; . As for the claim to being one of the earliest doom metal bands, if it cant be sourced, remove it as original research.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 23:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hers fold  (t/a/c) 20:07, 3 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Author's comment: According to The Gaulet.com Rigor Sardonicous formed in 1987.Blackless  —Preceding unnamed comment added 00:33, 4 March 2009 (UTC).
 * Keep, There are already enough valid resources.Blackless


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