Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rimon Law P.C.


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The result was delete. Lack of independent sources to establish notability. RL0919 (talk) 04:35, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Rimon Law P.C.

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Non-notable law firm. Page created by WP:SPA with only 25 total edits who also created page for CEO and founder, Michael Moradzadeh. Loksmythe (talk) 18:25, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
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 * Keep - reference 23 is an ABA Journal in-depth review of the law firm. Passes my standards. It's poorly written, possibly a PR write-up, but not TNT-worthy. Bearian (talk) 20:42, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Response References must contain "Independent Content" (as defined by WP:ORGIND) and this reference fails abysmally. The article relies entirely on an interview with the founders and contains no content that can be clearly attributed to a source unaffiliated with the company. You pretty much acknowledge that this article is PR (which it is) and therefore fails ORGIND. Also, in order to meet the criteria for establishing notability "multiple" references are required., I see you've stuck to your guns below when discussing with but perhaps in light the ORGIND guidelines, you might want to revisit/rescind your !vote.  HighKing++ 17:17, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Clearly a promotional article with scant independent sourcing. The "in-depth review" cited by contains only five paragraphs about Rimon Law - most of the article addresses other firms. There appears to be little coverage of this firm outside of promotional material.  May His Shadow Fall Upon You     Talk  13:46, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
 * , maybe you didn't see the same article, linked here, which contains two pages of text and two video interviews. I tried to go through Google, but it may be behind a paywall; I am a former ABA member and still have access to their past content (hooray for cookies!). Bearian (talk) 15:30, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
 * - I'm a current ABA member but I didn't have to log in to see it. This is not the type of substantial coverage required to maintain a Wikipedia article. Two pages of text won't do. May His Shadow Fall Upon You     Talk  16:14, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Ok, we can agree to disagree. I'll go with the consensus. Bearian (talk) 20:09, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep per Bearian - while the article can probably be rewritten to amend its tone, the sources found appear to establish notability and meet GNG. Bookscale (talk) 11:24, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 04:12, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. If the best ref (23) is, sorry, it's a single paragraph focusing on the company founder(s), not the company. And they are just one of several similar cases mentioned in the article. So this is coverage 'in passing', not 'in depth'. So, this being, per comments above, 'the best' source... it fails WP:NORG and higher level policies by a long shot. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 13:22, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Clearly the Keep !voters above have not read the WP:NCORP guidelines, especially WP:ORGIND. I have searched extensively and I am confident that there are no references about this company that meet the criteria for establishing notability. The references in ABA Journal are the very definition of churnalism and fail WP:ORGIND. Topic fails GNG and WP:NCORP.  HighKing++ 17:17, 15 September 2019 (UTC)


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