Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ringleader Man


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Delete and redirect (with protection so that the redirects can no longer be undone): redirects are cheap anyway, but since there is nothing to be merged or kept, we can delete it first. Fram (talk) 11:50, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Ringleader Man

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Non-charting single with little or no media coverage of substance. Fails WP:NSONGS. Bundling with another song by the same artist, same issues. Redirects on both have been reverted more than once. TheJazzDalek (talk) 11:46, 3 May 2009 (UTC) 
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  —TheJazzDalek (talk) 11:49, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: Have you ever tried to merge the content instead of just redirecting the page? -- Avant-garde a clue - hexa Chord 2  11:56, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * What parts of those wholly unsourced stubs that aren't already in the parent article would you suggest merging? TheJazzDalek (talk) 12:05, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I can't find anything about "Karaoke" in the album article. BTW: Isn't it strange, that there's no coverage about the singles from such a successful and critically acclaimed album? -- Avant-garde a clue - hexa Chord 2  12:15, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I was unable to verify that these songs were actually released as singles. (And it seems pretty unlikely that if they were, they wouldn't have charted, considering how popular the artist is.) Even the album's article omits them from the list of singles, though the text of the article claims there was a promo single of Ringleader (though it's unclear, that may be referring to the song's iTunes release prior to the album coming out, which doesn't make it a promo single). TheJazzDalek (talk) 14:19, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect. It's a non-notable song; the article has been redirected to the album many times and it should be remain that way until some charting occurs. -- Esa nchez (Talk 2 me or Sign here) 00:28, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: article also exists at Karaoke (T-Pain song). TheJazzDalek (talk) 23:37, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:18, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * There are some cases that merged/redirected because of failing WP:NSONGS: "50 Bars", "I'm Illy", "Ready for Whatever", "My Life Your Entertainment". It's all songs by T.I., the "popular" artist. –DaDopeboy Talk 19:05, 16 May 2009 (JST)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  SilkTork  *YES! 22:22, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, One two three... 03:33, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete There is simply nothing to these articles, or these songs, apparently. No sourcing, no chart positions, no nothing. Fails WP:N and WP:MUSIC. -- Blue Squadron  Raven  21:45, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete both Non-notable songs per WP:NSONGS, nothing to merge, redirects unlikely. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 04:10, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect both to the artist. Fails WP:V, but as the content is entirely non-toxic plain information, I suggest a redirect to preserve info in history and let other people continue, when (if) sources appear. Power.corrupts (talk) 07:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, both fail notability per WP:MUSIC. No awards, no chart, no covers, no WP:RS.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 10:06, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.