Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ritter von Krauss


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The result was   delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 23:28, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Ritter von Krauss

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There are no references for this and a google search turned up nothing on this person. On the talk page the author admits that this is a pen name for an unpublished author. PTJoshua (talk) 17:50, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
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 * Delete per either WP:HOAX or WP:CRYSTAL as the movie mentioned is only in development at this time and no credits are publicly available. Google search doesn't turn up anything related on any variation of the name. Search for the book mentioned turns up nothing. Article is certainly well-written, but currently unverifiable. -- &#124;  Uncle Milty  &#124;  talk  &#124;  18:55, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 19:08, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete as probable hoax, certainly fails WP:V. The article claims that the novel "Tiger Battalion" "finally appeared in 2010" and that the film "Twilight Of The Gods" "also appeared in 2011 with the author properly credited." If true, there would be some record in places like Worldcat and IMDb, but I can find none. IMDb has an entry for "Twilight of the Gods (2011)" but the genre is shown as "Thriller" and it is only in the "in development" stage. A note on the talk page, placed when a PROD was removed, appears to backtrack on those claims, which does not give much confidence. JohnCD (talk) 19:28, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm inclined to say this is more a WP:HOAX than anything, given that Ritter isn't a first name in German, it's the title "Knight" and "the knight of Krauss" sounds, implausible as a pen name. In any event I would expect anyone of this nature to generate some form of attention/interest given he supposedly wrote highly extensively in one of the most studied historical eras of all time.   Also, to JohnCD, "Twilight of the Gods" is one translation of "Gotterdaemerung" a common phrase in German mythology, it's not surprising that would generate a lot of hits (it was even the name of a level in Warcraft 3, for instance). HominidMachinae (talk) 19:33, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment I have no position on the notability/verifiability yet, I need to do more searching. But Ritter von Krauss would normally be translated "Baron von Krauss" and we have an article on one: George Krauss. It isn't so implausible for a person to use a title of nobility as a pen-name. Yngvadottir (talk) 21:44, 16 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete as hoax. Edward321 (talk) 20:04, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: the article has been amended, and there is a note on the talk page, to say that the book and film will appear later this year. However, it still fails WP:V and WP:NOR: the author says on his talk page that the information "has never been released before." JohnCD (talk) 14:03, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete in view of the author's now having stated that neither the book nor the film has yet appeared. This is therefore premature, but I hope it gets recreated after the necessary sources exist to demonstrate notability. Yngvadottir (talk) 16:00, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:HAMMER - and re-create when it's released and gets good media coverage. Bearian (talk) 20:41, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
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