Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ritwik Thakur


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The result was   delete. Missvain (talk) 06:54, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Ritwik Thakur

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BLP on an Indian civil servant that has done some poetry. Article was created by subjects son. Nominated for speedy deletion under A7, but speedy removed several times. Speedy deletion declined, but article was BLP-PRODed by declining admin. Article dePRODed by creator, although you can question if any reliable sources have been added. Recently some private snapshots of diplomas and what-not have been added as references. Searching for "Ritwik Thakur" and "ঋত্বিক ঠাকুর" gives no impression of notability. Delete, fails WP:BIO. -- Sam Sing! 15:10, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

This article should not be speedily deleted.He is one of the renowned persons in West Bengal.His contribution to literary world by this time has already reached quite a remembering place for Bengali poetry and people will come to know about him when they try to do so.The references for genuineness of this article have been placed without bias and are based on documentary evidences.As such,authenticity of this article must not be called in question and should be given a due place in this encyclopedia.No snapshots of personal diplomas have been added.The certificates which he has received from World Peace Thinkers and Poets Meet 2010 and Bishnu Dey centenary seminar for his contribution have been given.The award of Raja Ram Mohan Roy Puroshkaar he received as the Best Bengal Poet in 2005 has also been referred. --Ritiman 15:27, 6 February 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ritiman Thakur (talk • contribs)
 * Delete I'm sorry, Ritman, I know your father is an important person to you, and you have written this article with love and respect. But Wikipedia is an international encyclopedia and it has criteria for what should be included here. The main criterion is the general notability guideline which states that the subject has been WRITTEN ABOUT by independent reliable sources. There are no such sources in this article. There is one external link, but it is not to a reliable source - just somebody's blog - and it does not even mention your father that I could find. He has won a poetry prize, but not a notable prize as defined by Wikipedia. There are pictures of certificates and things but they do not prove his notability. If you can find some independent reliable sources (things like newspaper articles, scholarly reviews of his poetry, etc. - and they don't have to be in English) then we can consider including him. But right now this article almost qualifies for speedy deletion as an unreferenced biography of a living person. Regarding the nominator's comment above, I could find no mention of him being an Indian civil servant - just a poet. --MelanieN (talk) 15:45, 6 February 2015 (UTC)


 * I do have independent reliable sources (things like newspaper articles, scholarly reviews of his poetry, etc.) and as soon as possible I'll add them to the article. And with due respect to the Nominators up here,I would like to say I didn't create the article on his name just because I share a close relationship but genuinely his contribution to literary world by this time has already reached quite a remembering place for Bengali poetry and people will come to know about him when they try to do so. Ritiman 15:55, 6 February 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ritiman Thakur (talk • contribs)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. -- Sam Sing! 19:49, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. -- Sam Sing! 19:51, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poetry-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:17, 7 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete -What a mess!! Full of OR. Subject doesn't meet any of the Wikipedia's notability guideline . Anupmehra  - Let's talk!  03:35, 7 February 2015 (UTC)


 * I've gathered up articles of his poetry and work from newspaper,magazines,books and also reviews on his poetry and books from independent reliable sources. I would like to request all the Nominators here to suggest me how to add them or include them into the article for Unbiased opinions and approvals. Thank You. Ritiman 10:07, 7 February 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ritiman Thakur (talk • contribs)
 * Hi -Please rewrite the article from scratch, and write only what has been published in these newspapers, magazines and books summarizing key contents in your own words from a neutral point of view. When you derive some contents from one or more sources, cite the same as inline citations to help understand readers where did the contents came from and subsequently verify them. You may use cite news and cite books template to convert those sources into inline citations (leave |url= parameter empty if they are offline). You may also take a look at Wikipedia's guide for referencing (in particular video tutorial).  Anupmehra  - Let's talk!  15:52, 7 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank You -Although I've written the article in my own words and not just copy-pasting from other sites I would try to Edit it again in an objective way mentioning the specific areas of his excellence and his works including the additional references that I've gathered up from independent reliable sources. Ritiman 17:16, 7 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete None of the work of the subject is notable nor does the subject itself. I will be surprised if any one could find multiple reliable third party sources. The subject is not at all notable as I couldn't find any source, not even in Bengali language. The award given are rather common and non notable hence haven't got any attention from news. I think speedy deletion per A7 still applies.  Jim  Car  ter  12:17, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
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