Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/River Oaks Chamber Orchestra


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Stifle (talk) 00:01, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

River Oaks Chamber Orchestra

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Seems to be non-notable. No third-party sources. Given site was ranked 6,746,552nd by Alexa. Alexius08 (talk) 05:41, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment left in the article, moved here by User:Hiding I find it outrageous to pronounce such a nomination while there are many references to questionable subjects all over Wikipedia (I can provide details in private) The River Oaks Chamber Orchestra is a cultural enhancement in any aspect for the United States and our society. In times were the masses are downgraded by non-sense movies, idiotic books and low level entertainment I believe that anyone who has doubts that an article about a chamber orchestra should not be place here, has no culture at all.(user: tdorsch)
 * Weak keep, there's reliable secondary sources which will verify the information within the article, and a stub allows Wikipedia to give them their due weight. Hiding T 10:47, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep Marginal, to be certain, but the article would benefit from editing and enhancing. No need to erase it. Ecoleetage (talk) 17:37, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment The references provided to support notability seem to be blogs. It is not clear that they were printed in the paper. If they were, that would help to support notability. As for comparing this organization to the Houston Symphony, note the 4540 Google News results for the Houston Symphony compared to the 11 for this organization, with some of those being passing reference  about the spouse of the director going to jail. Many refs are behind paywall and I cannot evaluate them. Edison (talk) 17:47, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I turned up a couple of newspaper articles which based on what I saw verify the info in a web search,, maybe someone with a US library card can add them as appropriate. Hiding T 20:15, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment A lot of U.S. newspapers have blogs as part of their online editions -- this is done to differentiate the online version from the paper version. The Houston Chronicle's blogs are part of the Chronicle media organisation and, as I understand policy, would meet WP:RS requirements. Ecoleetage (talk) 20:32, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Please keep, ArtsHouston, a Houston Magazine about Art and Culture, will feature ROCO in the upcoming issue with a detailed article - I am also collecting other materials in print. (I am not affiliated and I am not a staff member of ROCO) Also, there is no proof that Houston Chronicle published this only as a blog, it was for sure also printed. ArtsHouston e.g., is a printed magazine and uploads most of their articles to an Archive Directory on their website. Again, the ROCO is gaining increasingly local and nationwide recognition, in particular because they have a more educational approach to the public than other orchestras. Will provide more relevant Information once the ArtsHouston article has been published in two weeks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.129.4.57 (talk • contribs) 21:41, 7 October 2008


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