Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rizin Fighting Federation 1


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The result was redirect to Rizin Fighting Federation. And perhaps merge if that survives AfD.  Sandstein  11:35, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Rizin Fighting Federation 1

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Article consists of virtually no text and is entirely a listing of results. I found no significant coverage of this event except for the reporting of results. Being the first event of an MMA organization is no guarantee of notability. Article fails to meet WP:GNG and WP:NEVENT, while falling under WP:NOTNEWS. Papaursa (talk) 01:38, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reasons.




 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Papaursa (talk) 01:38, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

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 * Delete As independent articles. Please note that there is an AfD debate for the parent article Articles for deletion/Rizin Fighting Federation which if it survives the above articles should be merged - if it does not then these two should also go.Peter Rehse (talk) 11:04, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep as article consists of information concerning an internationally aired event in at least Japan, Russia, and the United States (on SpikeTV) in which notable fighters participated. I found significant coverage of this event beyond for the reporting of results.  Being the first event of a major MMA organization is a guarantee of notability.  Article easily meets WP:GNG and WP:NEVENT and is consistent with what Wikipedia is.  The nominator is either lying about his inability for finding sources or is too inept to actually know how to look for sources.  Such sources as this actually do discuss the event and not just list results.  It took all of three seconds to find that source via Google...  Not to mention coverage in non-MMA specific press, such as ESPN with this article among many.  These articles showing coverage beyond just results and including coverage by mainstream press in the case of ESPN are but examples of many such sources.  Unlike the lazy nominator, I have begun expanding the article taking into account the easily found reliable sources demonstrating notability as seen with these edits.  Lastly, lest idiocy prevail, this article's content has at least been preserved [ http://www.historyandheadlines.com/rizin-fighting-federation-1/ here].  --24.112.230.227 (talk) 19:36, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment It is not a given that this is a major MMA organization having had only two events (arguably just one over two nights last month) and being the first event of any organization (major or otherwise) does not imply notability. It makes sense to have the first two (sic) events and the main article as one especially considering the duplication of references.Peter Rehse (talk) 15:28, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions.  Human 3015   TALK    12:25, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions.  Human 3015   TALK    12:27, 9 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Rizin Fighting Federation The events are not notable in themselves since routine sports coverage doesn't show notability. However, the main results are already incorporated into the federation's article.Mdtemp (talk) 19:24, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep due to events being notable in themselves due to unusually high sports coverage showing notability. --173.241.225.193 (talk) 20:11, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Nice to see another new IP from Ashland, Ohio. These events certainly didn't receive "unusually high sports coverage". Can you show how it received coverage like a Super Bowl or World Series?Mdtemp (talk) 20:20, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, Papaursa... Unusually high for MMA.  It was televised in multiple countries.  Things to have to be the Super Bowl to be worthy of Wikipedia.  --173.241.225.193 (talk) 20:31, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * If being televised was an indicator of notability, then every NHL, NBA, NFL, and MLB game could be considered notable. Papaursa (talk) 04:13, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Apples and oranges. The FIRST event is not comparable to the 124th NHL, NBA, etc. game.  Moreover, it is notable because of international coverage.  It was not just aired in one country or just the local teams' networks.  --24.112.230.227 (talk) 19:18, 14 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Merge to Rizin Fighting Federation. Main article is not really so long that we would need separate sub-articles here at this point.--Staberinde (talk) 11:12, 16 January 2016 (UTC)


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