Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rizzo: Year One


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. I took a look at merging the content, but the referencing is too weak. I'm open to discussion if someone else wants to pursue it.-- Kubigula (talk) 03:21, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Rizzo: Year One

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No independent sources, non-notable. Of the five references we have, only one (the authors' website) mentions this book (and a second redirects to that one). Google gives twenty original hits, all of which are either Wikipedia and mirrors or online bookshops. We may take the bookshops as verifying existence, but unless Amazon is by now a reliable source, there are none for the article's content. Prodded, prod removed with comment "I think notability can be proven on this one. I'll tag it as unsourced, but I'm removing the prod. No objection to an AfD, though." So here we are. Huon 21:03, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete I can't find any notability on this one, or on the Rizzo article. Some of the links are dead, and at least one bounces to the guy's own site - that's naughty! Assertion of publication, but no references. Google didn't help either. Unless someone can come up with some legitimate references, this is a definite delete. MarkBul 22:29, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge to Rizzo. It sounds like this isn't a self-published book. I think we might need some time to look at both this and Rizzo altogether, and possibly come back to AfD if we still come up with zero. -- Ned Scott 06:22, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Note, shows up on amazon.com, http://www.amazon.com/dp/0979452406/ with "BookSurge Publishing" as the publisher (which is different than what the article claims). -- Ned Scott 06:26, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - I couldn't find out anything about "KCU Comix & Boox", but books published by BookSurge Publishing clearly count as self-published: The author pays them for publishing, not the other way round. Ned Scott: AfD runs for 5 days. How long do you expect we need before we conclude there are no sources whatsoever? Please note that some of the article's assertions have been tagged as unreferenced for over a month without improvement. Huon 09:26, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, I meant to look at sources for Rizzo. It seems pretty clear that, merge or delete, Rizzo: Year One won't stay as it's own article. If Rizzo overall is notable for it's own article, I could see a small section for this book at the parent article, but it could be that we need to bring Rizzo to AFD as well. -- Ned Scott 20:05, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge into Rizzo. I'm the prod-remover here. Seeing as how the book has been shown to be self-published (which doesn't necessarily make it non-notable, mind), a merge into the parent seems appropriate.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by UsaSatsui (talk • contribs) 21:35, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Just doesn't have the notability, sorry. JodyByak, yak, yak 23:52, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - Delete per nomination --  Chil dzy  ¤  Ta lk  15:46, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge reliably sourced material into Rizzo as per UsaSatsui. Noroton 20:24, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. BookSurge is a self-publisher like lulu.com, and there are no reliable sources that comment on this book. So this one fails to meet any of criteria 1-5 in WP:BK. EdJohnston 22:51, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge If the main article is notable, then this is an acceptable subpart. Mbisanz 07:30, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom.Pharaoh of the Wizards 21:57, 24 September 2007 (UTC)


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