Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rob Ford mayoral campaign, 2014


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The result was   delete. Spartaz Humbug! 17:19, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Rob Ford mayoral campaign, 2014

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Per arguments given at Articles for deletion/Karen Stintz mayoral campaign, 2014 and Articles for deletion/David Soknacki mayoral campaign, 2014, I propose that Rob Ford's campaign article also be deleted. With Ford out of the race, there is little else to add to this article, and what's here is already included in Ford's bio or repeated in the other campaign articles, or should be merged to Toronto mayoral election, 2014. Ivanvector (talk) 15:20, 15 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep – He was clearly a notable candidate. Kingjeff (talk) 16:59, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Nobody's proposing that the main article about Rob Ford himself be deleted. But his campaign does not need a separate article from the one on him as an individual — no mayoral candidate in any city on earth, even much larger ones than Toronto, has ever qualified for this treatment before, and Toronto's current election is not the place to create a new precedent for this approach. By all means, the relevant content can be added to Rob Ford and Toronto mayoral election, 2014 — but we don't need an BLP about him and a separate article about his campaign. Bearcat (talk) 06:33, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:46, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete - he is clearly a notable candidate, but that doesn't make each of his campaigns notable. There is nothing here that can't be covered in his biography, mostly because the campaign doesn't need to be covered in this level of detail. Wikipedia is not a newspaper that needs to cover every stump speech or campaign event of every mayoral race of every candidate in the world. This is Pokemon-esque fan-cruft.  St ★ lwart 1 1 1 03:01, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree that not all of campaigns are notable. I don't believe his campaigns as city councillor are notable. They don't meet WP:GNG. However, his campaigns for mayor do meet the requirements. Kingjeff (talk) 03:29, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Strongly disagree.  St ★ lwart 1 1 1 03:59, 16 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment – Ivanvector, the article has very few edits over the last few months. Therefore, the amount that can be added can be quite significant. Kingjeff (talk) 03:34, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * The article already covers a range of pointless minutiae including (seemingly) every minor policy announcement or opinion Ford ever muttered while on the campaign trail. It's a coat-rack for campaign trivia and we shouldn't be adding more. Every local council/mayoral campaign is covered in local media for local constituents. The only difference here is that Ford's alleged crack smoking means that this gets a line or two in national or international media. But the substance of the campaign (the substance of the article) is almost entirely local, sourced to local news sources.  St ★ lwart 1 1 1 03:59, 16 September 2014 (UTC)


 * As I noted in both the Karen Stintz and David Soknacki discussions, a separate spinoff article about an individual candidate's campaign in a municipal election is not the kind of thing we need on Wikipedia. While we've allowed this type of thing for presidential campaigns in the United States, there has never been any consensus to extend that to municipal offices in any country. Bill de Blasio doesn't have one of these, Rahm Emanuel doesn't have one of these, Eric Garcetti doesn't have one of these, Boris Johnson doesn't have one of these, Klaus Wowereit doesn't have one of these, Bertrand Delanoë doesn't have one of these — why would Toronto warrant separate articles about each individual mayoral candidate's individual campaign if New York City and Chicago and Los Angeles and London and Berlin and Paris don't? Any content that's worth keeping should be merged directly into Rob Ford and/or Toronto mayoral election, 2014, but this article should be deleted. And that still goes for Olivia Chow mayoral campaign, 2014 and John Tory mayoral campaign, 2014, too — the fact that their campaigns are still active as of today still doesn't justify spinning off a triple layer of municipal election articles. Bearcat (talk) 06:33, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Unnecessary level of detail for a municipal election campaign. Should be briefly covered in the election article in a "Campaign" section (which is currently missing) and the article about Ford himself. Number   5  7  14:47, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete needless content fork and urge people to go to Articles for deletion/Individual Toronto mayoral campaigns and weigh in on the remaining two mayoral campaign articles. Downwoody (talk) 22:13, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete We've never had individiual articles for individuals who actually do run for mayor in local elections - let alone those that consider running but drop out. This article was massively out of date, and had barely been touched for months, even before this wife-beating racist dropped out of the campaign. There is plenty of space in the somewhat meagre Toronto mayoral election, 2014 to add information about the campaigns of the leading candidates. Nfitz (talk) 19:49, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
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