Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rob Swire (physio)


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The result was Keep. -- VS talk 07:08, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Rob Swire (physio)

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This subject is claimed to be notable due to his working duties as Man Utd physio. Personally, I do not agree with him being notable (notability is not usually inherited), and in a more generic basis I do not think being a football physio is a valid assertion of notability, as such figures are mainly cited only once a player gets injured, usually obtaining only a short mention with no other kind of press coverage. Such concerns were already briefly discussed in the article talkpage. Have your say. Angelo (talk) 13:11, 2 January 2008 (UTC) *Delete - but only because the sources only largely refer to Swire by inference to the players he is treating. If sources can be found for the first few pars about his background, then I'd change to a keep. Peanut4 (talk) 23:06, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related deletions. Angelo (talk) 13:14, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - As the writer of this article, I'm bound to go for a "Keep" vote, but I do genuinely believe that the information in the article is sufficiently well-referenced to qualify Swire as passing WP:BIO, i.e. he has had significant coverage in third-party media. – PeeJay 13:15, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - no sign of significant coverage in third party sources - ones referenced in the article do not treat him as the central focus of the piece. I can't see how notability is demonstrated here. - fchd (talk) 13:42, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - I have a source for that information, but at the minute, the site it's from is on the spam blacklist. – PeeJay 12:20, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep I googled Rob Swire and found the interview to which you referred to the other day and I remember your request for it to be de-blacklisted. With that addition, I'd be wavering towards a weak keep. He's notable enough for an interview there, source on the BBC and the Manchester Evening News even if they are referring largely to other players. It's certainly a borderline case and I'd rather keep something borderline than delete it. Peanut4 (talk) 16:03, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - I have now requested that the specific URL be whitelisted so that it can be included in the article. The discussion can be found here. – PeeJay 18:10, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak delete - three of the article's four references mention him in passing, the BBC one does include some significant coverage and quotes, but he is not the primary focus. The article, as it stands, covers Wayne Rooney as much as the subject. Qwghlm (talk) 00:46, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - I agree, the article does focus a bit too much on Swire's involvement in Wayne Rooney's injury. If I can condense that section a bit, would that sway your vote? – PeeJay 18:10, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - I have also added a link to a record of Swire's Man Utd career to the article. – PeeJay 21:27, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


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