Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robb Banks


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The result was keep. Needs work and additional sources, but not deletion. While I am not that familiar with this genre of music, there does appear to be a fair amount of coverage, which contributes to the notability of the subject and passes WP:MUSICBIO. (non-admin closure) TheSandDoctor (talk) 22:56, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Robb Banks

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Fails WP:BASIC, WP:ANYBIO, and WP:MUSICBIO. Only paragraph-long bios on hip-hop websites to support notability. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:34, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. There appear to be multiple examples of non-trivial coverage on this person's music, enough in my view to meet WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. I have added references to the article.  gongshow  talk  00:52, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:16, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. The article needs some work, including some citations needed for some uncited passages, but I would concur with Gongshow above that there seem to be enough sources here to meet notability. 331dot (talk) 00:36, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep Musician with several noted successes within the music industry (songs that charted, collaborations with established artists, etc...) This isn't an advertisement for someone's dream, but rather an artist who has passed the threshold of notability.  2602:306:CCC2:5F00:D129:5510:BB24:1DBE (talk) 22:43, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

May I also add that notability shouldn't be subjective. I've seen too many times where we've deleted articles on various celebrities despite them meeting the "letter of law" for notability, because they weren't on a network or genre the person supported. For example, despite an extensive career in TV, Teck Holmes's entry in Wikipedia was deleted for lack of notability. This man starred in a season of MTV's Real World, then continued with career with a number of other appearances on the network and in various movies catering to the African-American community, with a cast of actors with similiar star power. If you are a fan of hip-hop, then the references easily validate his notability. If you loathe hip-hop, then you have never heard of him or his famous father either. But that fact doesn't reject his notability in my book. He has released several albums and not self-published with 20 sales, but through established record labels. A quick search shows songs that charted. That is in keeping with WP: MUSIC BIO and again too many times I see articles get rejected that would easily meet the guidelines of notability, merely because the genre is not what the delete nominator would like. You do not have to be Jay-Z to be a successful hip-hop artist. I say this as an objective, but R&B, Opera, and sometimes Rock music fan :-D


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