Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robbie Vorhaus


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 21:15, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Robbie Vorhaus

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Article does not seem to credibly establish notability (WP:BIO and WP:AUTHOR) - some sources are missing a link and searching yields no results, and others are PR releases Benboy00 (talk) 21:12, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors and Businesspeople. Benboy00 (talk) 21:12, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Additionally, all the edits of the original page creator are either to this page, or to other pages to add information about Robbie Vorhaus or (the presumably related) Connor Vorhaus, and this page reads like a puff piece. Benboy00 (talk) 21:14, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 21:43, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment Hard to evaluate the quality of the coverage as almost every source is paywalled. The article in its current state is probably eligible for G11. Lean delete.-KH-1 (talk) 01:16, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Nothing for this person, may hits connected to the chocolate maker Russell Stover for some reason. Very promotional, flowery tone to the article as well, might need a rewrite if it is kept. Oaktree b (talk) 01:19, 30 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello, I am Robbie Vorhaus. I'm not familiar with the process, however, what is written here is true. I'm not sure what I need to do to make it more to your standards, however, I will, of course, honor the rules and regulations. If I understand correctly, I am not able to make the corrections myself, however, if you inform me what is required, I will search for an appropriate Wikipedia editor to make all your changes and requests. Please don't delete my page. 136.49.148.212 (talk) 01:51, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
 * The issue here is one of notability. This topic does not seem to meet the standards laid out here. A cursory search of the internet does not seem to reveal enough sourceable material to meet these standards. If you can find some sources that credibly indicate notability and post them in this discussion, that would be helpful (the sources already on the page do not appear to meet this threshold). Benboy00 (talk) 02:04, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Sir. I've always been honored to have a Wikipedia page, but I've never focused on it because it's true. I understand everything you are saying, and I've asked an editor I know through my wife to make some immediate changes. May I request that you take down the "deletion" notice and give me time to find an independent approved editor to make the changes that meet your standards? Connor Vorhaus is my son, however, he assures me, has not and does not know how to make changes here. Finally, although I counsel famous people, I cannot discuss or name them. I suppose that makes it difficult to validate my notability. Thank you for this opportunity to meet your standards and thresholds. 136.49.148.212 (talk) 02:36, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Mr. Benboy00, I am the author of what was a best-selling book, (ISBN - 978-0-9914658-0-4) and as a crisis management expert, I have appeared many times on network and cable TV, along with being quoted in major media. Again, I'm not quite clear how this process works, but if someone will inform me of exactly what Wikipedia needs for my entry, I will find an appropriate independent editor and make sure that happens. Please don't delete the Wikipedia entry about me. Thank you. 136.49.148.212 (talk) 02:55, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
 * You can find more about the process at Articles for deletion, but basically we are discussing whether the article should be deleted. During the discussion, it would be best to not edit the page, and stick to this page for discussion. For this sort of discussion (notability) it is best if you can provide sources to show that the noatbility criteria linked earlier are met. For example, for author notability, one criteria is:
 * The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews, or of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series); Note that sources for "multiple independent periodical articles or reviews" must be provided. You can find other criteria for authors at Author. Benboy00 (talk) 06:44, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Dear Wikipedia,
 * Thank you for this opportunity to reply to this discussion. Please consider NOT deleting my Wikipedia article and allowing me to find an editor to correct the errors, and edit to perfectly fit your standards.
 * Although I can not discuss this publicly, two things took me out of the public eye over the past six years. First, after appearing on FOX and being the first person on major TV to predict Donald J. Trump’s ascendency to President of the United States, the media shifted to a 24-hour political mechanism, and my specialty is mostly consumer and leadership issues. Further, because I was not able to promote/support Mr. Trump, I was not invited back on FOX. Also, COVID limited my TV appearances.
 * Also, as it’s stated in the article about me, ALL of my famous/notable clients wish to remain private, and not publicly recognized. I understand for these purposes that’s problematic, and I don’t have a solution to that issue.
 * Below I’ve listed and linked major television appearances, major articles about me, and significant articles that quote me as a notable expert.
 * Again, as I’m new to this process, I request you give me the opportunity to find an independent editor who will edit, fix, and format the article about me to your standards.  Thank you.
 * Fox Business w/ Maria - Discussing Defense Secretary Ash Carter - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMZUI8ZaBpk
 * Fox Business w/ Maria - Discussing Hillary Clinton - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzJSLhbKaBE
 * Fox Business w/ Maria - Discussing Bernie Sanders
 * Fox Business - First person on a major media outlet to affirmatively pronounce Donald J. Trump would win the U.S. Presidency - https://video.foxbusiness.com/v/4779268969001#sp=show-clips
 * Fox Business - Can Apple Become a Growth Company Again? https://video.foxbusiness.com/v/4865611573001#sp=show-clips
 * CNBC Blog - Do What You Love - https://www.cnbc.com/2008/07/16/robbie-vorhaus-do-what-you-love-and-the-money-will-follow.html
 * The Game Changer Network - https://thegamechanger.network/robbie-vorhaus-one-less-one-more-follow-your-heart-be-happy-change-slowly/
 * CNBC and NBC News - Boeing’s Dreamliner - https://www.nbcnews.com/video/dreamliners-bumpy-path-48836675514
 * CNBC and NBC News - Discussing Oprah and Lance Armstrong - https://www.nbcnews.com/video/branding-redemption-48836163679
 * Forbes - Peter Himler, The Test - https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterhimler/2011/11/29/oh-that-test/?sh=1b12e18d2682
 * Logo Designer - Creating the logo for OLOM
 * ABC Australia - Quoting RV from CNN appearance on why BP boss, Tony Hayward should resign - https://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2010/s2964291.htm
 * Los Angeles Times - Expedia Glitch, quoting RV and also mentioning me as CNN contributor - https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2005-nov-27-tr-internet27-story.html
 * Slate - Discussing Dan Rather, quoting RV, and mentioning that I am a media strategist and a former CBS News producer - https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2005-nov-27-tr-internet27-story.html
 * Good Reads - One Less. One More - https://www.logo-designer.co/pearlfisher-creates-identity-logo-design-for-lifestyle-movement-one-less-one-more/
 * HuffingtonPost - https://www.huffpost.com/author/robbie-187 - Over 20 posts and quoted many times as Founding Contributor 136.49.148.212 (talk) 19:50, 1 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per Oaktree b. There's also a strong argument the article can be deleted per WP:TNT. Best, GPL93 (talk) 21:00, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
 * The suggestion was that the page is not edited while there is a discussion open. The suggestion was made that I produce resources and references to my stated notoriety, I complied. I understand this article has been edited by one person, and that looks suspect, I agree. I have read all the rules and your comments and feel strongly this article can be fixed for your standards. I'm grateful you've given this your attention, and I ask you one more time to please consider keeping it up and allowing me to find an independent editor(s) to address your issues. If you review the links I provided you will see that I am one of the leading crisis management professionals in my field. You seem intent on wanting to delete this article, and if that's true, I'm grateful at the very least for this process. 136.49.148.212 (talk) 22:32, 2 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Please review this article again and consider NOT DELETING. I attempted to edit to be closer to Wikipedia's standards for a notable person. I am new as a Wikipedia editor, and many of the major media citations appear behind a paywall. I am not aware of how to present Mr. Vorhaus's quotes when they are behind a paywall, although there are many major media examples that quote Mr. Vorhaus as a notable media/political strategist and crisis communications expert. Thank you. Austin2805Mueller (talk) 21:52, 3 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete Seems to be a man doing his job. Puff piece. No indication of being notable. Fails WP:SIGCOV.   scope_creep Talk  08:12, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
 * This comment is both negatively personal and punitive. The issue is whether this article meets Wikipedia standards or not. My intention is demonstrating that I do in fact meet your standards and be considered to remain on the platform. I did, indeed, write a relatively successful mass market book (that was endorsed by many famous and notable people). I have appeared on a regular basis as an expert and notable authority on crisis communications and reputation management on major network and cable television, and there are also references to articles either being written about or including me. Oaktree b, Benboy00, and others have been helpful in learning this process, and if Wikipedia still feels this article fails to meet the threshold for your standards, then please, take it down. However, please keep the comments to the article and it's level of permissibility here on Wikipedia, and not conjecture or sarcasm about me personally. Thank you. 136.49.148.212 (talk) 16:49, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete What is needed are resources *about* this person, not *by* this person. What we have here instead are video clips of him and some quotes in articles about various topics. I am unable to find any reviews of his book, and as listed on Amazon it appears that it might have been self-published (publisher is listed as Storytelling, Inc.). There are only about a dozen libraries that have it, so the statement that it was a 'best seller' is hard to accept. That the person himself is so involved in this discussion is a red flag. The person should read Autobiography to understand why writing about oneself on Wikipedia is greatly discouraged. Lamona (talk) 20:42, 4 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Dear Wikipedia, please make a decision and either allow this article about me to remain, or delete it. I'm new to this and hearing about how I've involved myself in this process is a "red flag," or that the book appears to be self-published (it was published by a small, now out of business, independent publisher) or that calling it a best-seller is "hard to accept," when for a short time it was a best seller in the self help category, is not helpful. Make a decision. Leave it up, take off the notice, and allow independent editors to make it better, or take it down. Thank you. 136.49.148.212 (talk) 21:40, 4 December 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.