Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Ash (engineer)


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Spirit of Eagle (talk) 04:49, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Robert Ash (engineer)

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Fails Prof test, low-level academic sourced only to his own university's bio Jimfbleak - talk to me?  06:28, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete for now as although he has quite a few accomplishments, my searches found no better sourcing than this, this and this. Pinging and  for comment.  SwisterTwister   talk  07:50, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. Google scholar (for author:rl-ash) finds citation counts of 170, 150, 100, etc., probably enough for WP:PROF, and his university has listed him as an "Eminent Scholar" since 1989, an honor given to a small fraction of its full professors that is possibly enough for #C5. Also he has spoken at "manly locations" . —David Eppstein (talk) 18:17, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep The standard for academics is usually WP:PROf, not WP:GNG. The conventional number of references for showing notability under the GNG is unnecessary--all that is necessary is to show the person is an authority in his subject. G-searches may or may not find anything beyond their official web page, but it doesn;t much matter, because theat page is a sufficiently reliable authority for biographical information. . This is normally done by the citations to the person's published works; for engineers, this is normally peer-reviewed journal articles and, in some specialties conference papers of equivalent stature.   A/c Google Scholar, his most cited paper has been referred to 170 times, then 150, 119, 100, 93 73, 71, 65 etc. --in most fields, anyone with one of more papers with ≥ 100 citations is notable.   (David E removed the excessive list of publications; I've added back those 3  ≥most highly cited papers to the article;
 * It is a reasonably safe assumption that full professors at a major research institution are always notable--of all those brought here in the last 5 years,only a very few have been deleted, either because WPedians think their subject field is unimportant, or prejudice against those who have unpopular views on controversial issues.  Old Dominion is a research university, though not the very highest level--it's listed at a high intensity research university, not a very-high intensity research university --see List of research universities in the United States. In practice, these too count as major--very few have been deleted. It certainly did not justify the nom saying he was a "low-level academic". An appropriate example of low-level academic is an Assistant Professor in a 2-year college.   DGG ( talk ) 22:12, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Sam Sailor Talk! 14:09, 24 September 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Sam Sailor Talk! 00:51, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep, by the logic that a full professor at a research university should be considered notable. Roches (talk) 13:04, 5 October 2015 (UTC)


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