Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Blue Moon


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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 (talk) 10:48, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Robert Blue Moon

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WP:TOOSOON for this musical artist, not close to meeting WP:MUSICBIO. No collective notability, has only unreleased/soon-to-be-released recordings. Lots of refs, most of which are local appearances, school paper, etc. &#9790;Loriendrew&#9789;   &#9743;(ring-ring)  00:26, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Delete - per WP:TOOSOON. Mlpearc ( open channel ) 01:05, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

DO NO DELETE WP:TOOSOON — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moonshine2424 (talk • contribs) 01:07, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Robert Blue Moon Article
He has recordings and his group has garnished 10k plays for songs that he himself produced and featured on I can include the features and the songs that he has been featured on that has over 10,000 plays. I also just doubled checked and realized that he decided to release his song early and it is even out now on spotify and google play and itunes and more. I can make the changes to match this so this can further prove its important, and that was a university newspaper! It proves that he went to FAMU and proves that he is credible and the it is not just local because he has performed in California and there are countless blogs from the festival in California that talk about him, those are more then credible.

It is also states that on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(music)#Criteria_for_musicians_and_ensembles

that "Articles in a school or university newspaper (or similar), in most cases." are notable which makes my source being his university newspaper valid.

It is also stated that "Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc."

His single will be on stream across the united states on PBS in 2017 and it was just release! he pushed up the date from what i saw also it is stated that "Concert tours are probably notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. Such coverage might show notability in terms of artistic approach, financial success, relationship to audience, or other such terms. Sources that merely establish that a tour happened are not sufficient to demonstrate notability"

They lost because they did not place first at the okeechobee music and arts festival which was festival that was on a national scale with artist from Kendrick Lamar and J.Cole him along with his collective placed 3rd. Moonshine2424 (talk) 01:05, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Link to article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Blue_Moon

Links to proof
https://play.spotify.com/artist/6OwI6eEZUBrJ2iUzsLaVlO?play=true https://soundcloud.com/crvscxntmoon https://soundcloud.com/crvscxntmoon/2-god-blessMoonshine2424 (talk) 00:30, 21 June 2016 (UTC)Moonshine2424 (talk) 00:50, 21 June 2016 (UTC) I can include the features and the songs that he has been featured on that has over 10,000 plays and I just doubled checked and released he decided to release his song early and it is even out now on spotify and google play and itunes and more. https://play.spotify.com/artist/6OwI6eEZUBrJ2iUzsLaVlO?play=true|Moonshine2424]] (talk) 00:50, 21 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment Responding to Moonshine2424, I have to point out that the policy mentioned specifically says school/university newspapers are NOT valid sources for establishing notability. Please note the word "EXCEPT".
 * This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries except for the following: (...) Articles in a school or university newspaper (or similar), in most cases.
 * I make no judgment about the rest of your arguments at this time (don't have the time to go through it yet), but I do want to clear that up. Fieari (talk) 01:19, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself.[note 1] This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries[note 2] except for the following: Any reprints of press releases, other publications where the musician or ensemble talks about themselves, and all advertising that mentions the musician or ensemble, including manufacturers' advertising.[note 3] Works consisting merely of trivial coverage, such as articles that simply report performance dates, release information or track listings, or the publications of contact and booking details in directories." Articles in a school or university newspaper (or similar), in most cases. and thanks for taking a look — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moonshine2424 (talk • contribs) 01:23, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment Responding to Fieari "Musicians or ensembles (this category includes bands, singers, rappers, orchestras, DJs, musical theatre groups, instrumentalists, etc.) may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria:
 * Again, in what you just quoted, it says "except for the following:" (emphasis mine). School newspapers are listed beneath "except". Fieari (talk) 01:36, 21 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment Responding to Loriendrew

see aboveMoonshine2424 (talk) 01:28, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. North America1000 01:56, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. North America1000 01:56, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

I dont why i didnt notice the except but there is the proof that this individuals did credible music frstivals where he had to have a thoe of following ti even perform somewhere with so many huge people and to make it to the last round to perform with some of musics biggest names — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moonshine2424 (talk • contribs) 18:51, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

New link to for him https://play.google.com/music/listen?gclid=CJD76a7WvM0CFdadgQodpE8G2g&gclsrc=ds&u=0#/artist/Aeqhatdibuthjh2cdqnvbh7e4ye/Robert+Blue+MoonMoonshine2424 (talk) 22:26, 22 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete. Much too soon.  NewYorkActuary (talk) 23:31, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Simply not notable at this time and possible COI. Samf4u (talk) 12:00, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Because Moonshine2424 has made such an impassioned plea to save this article, I actually spent time checking out the various links. The sum total are trivial and user generated. Being "credible" and having a "following" does not translate to "notable." Agree this may be a case of TOO SOON if all the subject's goals pan out. For now, though, there is really nothing of stand out significance here that merits a wikipedia entry. ShelbyMarion (talk) 23:00, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as WP:TOOSOON. Links to Spotify or Google Play or Soundcloud do not cut it for sourcing — they are primary sources, not reliable source coverage in media. As noted above, NMUSIC deprecates college and university newspapers as unable to carry notability. Nothing claimed in the article clears any part of NMUSIC, and none of it is reliably sourced — verification of notability is not the same thing as verification of existence, and a musician does not automatically qualify for a Wikipedia article just because he exists. Creator's username also implies a potential conflict of interest. Bearcat (talk) 02:54, 28 June 2016 (UTC)


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