Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert E. Gould


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The result was no consensus. W.marsh 19:47, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Robert E. Gould

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I don't know if this fellow fails WP:BIO, but it's borderline. Add to that the lack of meaningful neutral content in the article, and I don't think it can be salvaged. YechielMan 07:24, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

especially because denial of its existence was used to fuel homophobia (if only gays could get it, then perhaps they deserve it, or so some of the arguments went, and there were more extreme ones yet.) His work affected public opinion at the time and is therefore notable. Mainstream press coverage. DGG 21:32, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - as written, the subject doesn't appear noteable. Neonblak 09:25, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep The debate on the heterosexual transmission of AIDS was a very important one in the early years of the disease,
 * Merge and redirect. If he received mainstream press coverage (per DGG) that could salvage personal notability, then some examples of it need to be added to the article (and I'd support weak keep). His idea (Cosmo article) is certainly important, but not sure he is (the article is heavy on bio details, only a sentence about his ideas). Maybe merge to AIDS (or some related page) and redirect. DMacks 02:18, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Turns out he was a pretty outspoken guy and managed to get himself quoted a lot:
 * There's almost no danger of getting AIDS from ordinary sexual intercourse, and the irrational fear of AIDS that stifles guilt-free enjoyment of sex may prove more destructive in the long run than the AIDS virus itself, Dr. Robert E. Gould, a professor of psychiatry and of obstetrics and gynecology at New York Medical College, said in the January Cosmopolitan. His controversial message has drawn the indignant wrath of several leading AIDS experts." – Chicago Tribune
 * Psychologists say that being the keeper of the device is no cheap thrill, that controlling remote-control devices gives people a real sense of power. "People are always looking for control and power - most of us feel very lacking," said Dr. Robert E. Gould, a professor of psychiatry at New York Medical College. "It's superficial, but if someone can't get it another way, having control over the environment can go a long way in making them feel secure." – New York Times
 * Dr. Robert E. Gould, a New York Medical College psychiatrist who chaired the session, said, "We don't have sports for sports' sake. We have turned it into a brutal, commercialized aspect of our society. The viewers and players are corrupted. It's a sickness in our society." – Philly Inquirer
 * There's more stuff, I'm looking for an obit, but certainly enough to keep by itself. ~ trialsanderrors 08:07, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Here 'tis:
 * Dr. Robert Gould, a psychoanalyst who specialized in treating social outcasts, died Wednesday in New York City. He was 73. (...) Dr. Gould was a clinical professor of psychiatry at New York Medical College and president of the National Coalition on Television Violence, a lobbying group. Since the 1960s, he was a frequent commentator on how society treated its outsiders. He regularly criticized the methods of social scientists and medical practitioners and often appeared before reporters' microphones and television cameras, as well as on op-ed pages." Robert Gould, Psychoanalyst Who Treated Social Outcasts, New York Times 1998. Ask me for more sources if interested. ~ trialsanderrors 08:14, 30 January 2007 (UTC)


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