Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Farmer (ice hockey)


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The result was   no consensus. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:24, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Robert Farmer (ice hockey)

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Non-notable hockey player, fails WP:NHOCKEY, no evidence he passes the GNG.   Ravenswing   19:34, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete nn player. Resolute 19:02, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete a search shows up no sources to meet GNG. Also fails NHOCKEY. -DJSasso (talk) 19:54, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep – The above editors need to take another look. This player meets Criteria #6 of WP:NHOCKEY and is presumed notable for having played with the Great Britain senior national team at both the 2012 and 2013 IIHF World Championship Division I. Dolovis (talk) 21:47, 13 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep - Meets NHOCKEY. Has played internationally for the British senior national team at multiple World Championships. -- Hockeyben (talk - contribs) 23:52, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Except NHOCKEY says the World Championships which is the Championship division. Not the junior worlds or the Division 1 championships. And again, meeting NHOCKEY does not guarantee notability, it only presumes it. You still have to proove it passes GNG if questioned. -DJSasso (talk) 23:56, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The "Division I" grouping in which Great Britain has recently played isn't the genuine World Championship top-level.   Ravenswing   00:35, 14 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Nowhere in the guideline is it stated or implied to be exclusive to the top-level World Championship. Nonetheless, here's some sources to demonstrate a GNG pass:, , , , , , , , , , .-- Hockeyben  (talk - contribs) 02:34, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Confused here -- I just went over all of those links, and they're all short little bits (some of them mere mentions) of the "Team signs player to contract" sort debarred by WP:ROUTINE: "Per Wikipedia policy, routine news coverage of such things as announcements, sports, and tabloid journalism are not sufficient basis for an article."   Ravenswing   11:29, 14 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I'll grant you that most of the sources provided fall under ROUTINE. Basically, I just wanted to list as many sources as I was able to unearth that discussed Farmer in semi-detail at least. However, #2 and #12 are both lengthy mentions which should avoid ROUTINE, and since GNG only requires two suitable sources, this player should be granted a pass. Plus, the sheer number of short and routine mentions, in addition to the lengthier ones, should also go toward establishing his notability. -- Hockeyben (talk - contribs) 14:14, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually #12 is about Mrazek not about Farmer. -DJSasso (talk) 15:32, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Part one of the article discusses Farmer at length. -- Hockeyben (talk - contribs) 16:43, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
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