Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Fish (baseball)


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The result was   delete. Wizardman 15:29, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Robert Fish (baseball)

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Non notable minor league player, released by the Braves and no longer active. Prod removed by article creator. Spanneraol (talk) 15:18, 3 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment Very confused. I removed the prod bit I am not the article's creator - the nominator - User:Spanneraol created this article. I created the page over 2 years as a redirect to an article he was mentioned it (rightly or wrongly - I no longer can remember the circumstances). Spanneraol changed this from a redirect to an article, then within seconds of doing so, nominated the page for deletion. I tried to return it to a redirect to 2012 Braves season (it is irrelevant whether he no longer plays for them) (which it had been until Spanneraol's edits), and recommended RfD, as it was looking at deleting a redirect. This was repeatedly reverted back to an article - for no reason I can think of, as Spanneraol clearly did not want it to be an article, neither did I or anyone else! If he is non-notable, redlinks to him should be removed and the title should be redirected to a valid target or deleted. It's madness that we're discussing deleting an article - this was a redirect for over two years, and was then created as an article, and nominated for deletion by article's creator within one minute of this change. Boleyn (talk) 15:33, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
 * It looks like Spanneraol removed Robert Fish from Atlanta Braves minor league players, since he is not still with the organization. He then copied the text he had deleted from the Braves minor league players page and pasted it onto the Robert Fish page, which was no longer a plausible redirect to the Braves minor league players page. He then PRODed the Robert Fish article, with the text being used as evidence that the subject was not notable. At least, that might be the explanation for all of this. Northern Antarctica (₵) 18:19, 3 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment Boleyn appears to be correct, from the page history. Origamite (talk) 16:14, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
 * You created the redirect.. The guy is no longer with the Braves so the practice is to unmerge from the minor league page and then to delete the article. He never actually played for the Braves, just their minor league affiliate so redirecting to the 2012 Braves doesn't make any sense. Would have been far easier as a prod but you removed it to make things more difficult.Spanneraol (talk) 17:25, 3 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete non-notable minor leaguer. Northern Antarctica (₵) 18:19, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete He had a chance at notability as a Rule 5 pick, but it just didn't happen. He's not notable as he did not reach MLB. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:10, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I disagree with the (possibly unintended) implication here that not reaching the majors inherently makes him non-notable, as minor leaguers can be notable. But I agree that in this case there is no indication of notability. Rlendog (talk) 14:47, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment Above comments just show why AfD was the wrong venue, commenting on notability of an article no one wanted, rather than the redirect. Boleyn (talk) 10:21, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * How is this wrong? When he was a member of the Braves organization, there was a plausible reason to keep this information through a redirect on an appropriate page. Now he's released, so there's no place to redirect to, meaning it absolutely has to stand on its own through notability guidelines, which this fails. – Muboshgu (talk) 12:08, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I suppose it could have gone to redirects for discussion, but I agree that AfD is preferable in this case since it gets more attention. But it shouldn't really matter. Rlendog (talk) 14:47, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * G7 per nom. This is not my last name (talk) 12:23, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. Spanneraol (talk) 13:16, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:14, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:14, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
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