Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Frost Middle School (Fairfax County, Virginia) (second nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was No consensus, and I can hear Dr Claw's catchphrase in my mind right now. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 10:21, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Robert Frost Middle School (Fairfax County, Virginia)

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a non notable middle school in Virginia; recently survived a multiple AFD which was closed as "no consensus"; the deletion review endorsed the closure, but "mildly encouraged" relisting... thus, here we are. I can see no claim of notability at all for this school. Brianyoumans 01:42, 25 February 2007 (UTC) style="font-family: Andy; color: rgb(153, 51, 153); background-color: rgb(255, 204, 255);">ThePurpleMonkey(talk&bull;portal&bull;contribs) 18:09, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-notable middle school. TJ Spyke 01:47, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-notable, as most middle schools are. Mr.Z-man  talk ¢ 02:10, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete No evidence of Notability. No sources. Article needs to include multiple independent sources demonstrating notability per WP:ORG in order to avoid deletion. --Shirahadasha 02:50, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as per above. Middle schools generally aren't notable. -- † Ðy§ep§ion † Speak your mind 04:21, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Why should this school be singled out if the others were kept? Jordan 05:53, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Because people complained that AFDing all the Fairfax County middle schools at once wasn't good procedure, I am relisting them one at a time. I'm not saying this was the only non-notable one in the previous AFD - I'll get around to the others. --Brianyoumans 05:59, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep I agree, with respect why should this article be singled out than other schools across America, there will need to be references added though. Telly addict  12:14, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * So, it's it's all or nothing? --Brianyoumans 14:35, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, non-notable middle school. Terence Ong 恭喜发财 15:06, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per above, non-notable <span
 * Keep (1) There is no specific criterion which says that middle schools are not notable. (2) lack of references is not a reason for deletion, it is cause to tag for better referencing (see guidlines for delation).  (3) Given that it is an established public school it is likely that verifiable sources are available.  --Kevin Murray 19:03, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Most of the delete "votes" above seem to be expressions of subjective opinions which are specifically discouraged by WP:NOTE. --Kevin Murray 19:03, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - this school is very significant in its community, is very large for a middle school and the test scores are hugely notable; there is no point in people saying 'not notable' without explaining why. TerriersFan 22:54, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per Kevin Murray. There's a thousand other articles on different middle schools, and I don't see anything in here that's so different from all those others that this page needs to go, and for that reason I suspect this AFD is in bad faith.  Maybe we should slap a notability tag on it instead? Korranus 23:06, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * delete there is no intention to single out this school, but rather to treat it like other nn schools. DGG 01:57, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, as per Kevin Murray. It is a large middle school. --Carioca 03:53, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions.   -- Noroton 18:01, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep - let them have their page. What's the problem? I see none. Wikipedia has millions of useless articles, somebody in Fairfax County, VA might want to read about their local school. That's what Wikipedia is all about IMO - you won't see this middle school written about in Encyclopedia Britannica, but you can on Wikipedia. 167.206.107.110 18:56, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete No sources to show notability. The precedent has been to delete articles about run of the mill middle schools. This one has nothing to satisfy the proposed WP:SCHOOL]. Contrary to what was claimed above, we do not need a "specific criterion which says that middle schools are not notable" to delete a middle school article. If there are references, it would be far better to simply add them than to claim they must be out there somewhere waiting to be discovered. It is my very "objective opinion" that this article lacks multiple independent reliable sources having it as a primary subject and that it is therefore non-notable. Inkpaduta 23:21, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete No assertion of notability, no reliable sources backing up said assertion. Alternatively, merge anything verifiable to Fairfax County Public Schools and redirect. Shimeru 18:45, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, intriguing bibliography section, needs citations though. Smee 21:32, 27 February 2007 (UTC).
 * intriguing bibliography??? It consists of a listing in a business directory website, and the page for the school on the website of a local neighborhood group. How are those intriguing? --Brianyoumans 20:55, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Notability neither asserted nor evidenced. WMMartin 13:40, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. We really need that schoolwiki! Vegaswikian 23:41, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Public schools have an inherent claim to notability the same way that small villages and highways do.  Sourcing is not a problem here, and the article is decent enough that I don't see a benefit in merging, which is what I normally suggest doing for primary and middle educational institutions.  RFerreira 07:47, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete Schoolcruft with no mainstream media mentions. No assertion of notability, etc. - ElbridgeGerry t c block 00:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, and merge. No argument made as to why merging would not satisfy "notability" concerns while not destroying content. Christopher Parham (talk) 07:08, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.