Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Gartside


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. The Bushranger One ping only 20:09, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Robert Gartside

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Non-notable individual lacking GHits and GNEWS of substance. Appears to fail WP:BIO. red dog six (talk) 05:25, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 13:43, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 13:43, 25 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:02, 1 November 2011 (UTC)




 * Delete I have to say that the achievements listed do not in my view add up to much notability. Mangoe (talk) 12:28, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment from creator The article's creator (an WP:SPA, and based on the comments below possibly a WP:COI as well) posted the following comment on the discussion page when he/she contested the prod. --MelanieN (talk) 15:30, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Objection to speedy deletion of the subject Robert Gartside


 * The important aspect of the article is Robert Gartside's role in the founding of the Pharmacist's Defence Association which is a unionised organisation focused on the defence of individual members of the profession against their employers and the Government. This is a landmark in the area of industrial relations where professionals who were once protected by their professional body (the Royal Pharmaceutical Society) responded to the co-option of that body by the government and its dominance by large employers such as Boots by forming a Union to protect their interests.  Robert Gartside was instrumental in the founding of the PDA and his background in both industry and retail pharmacy, together with his long track record of being on the most senior governance bodies of his industry was critical in establishing the credibility of the PDA.  I think in the future the founding of the PDA will be seen as a turning point in both the medical profession in the UK and in the history of the retail pharmaceutical industry.


 * In writing the article, I tried to remain as objective as I could and my apologies if that meant the importance of the subject matter did not come across. I am happy to be guided on the best way to rewrite the article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Archvats (talk • contribs) 23:43, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Archvats, I'm sorry that your first attempt at editing Wikipedia has been met with such a disapproving reception. You need to understand why this is. Wikipedia is known as "the free encyclopedia anyone can edit," but that does not mean that articles are accepted about any and every subject. There are criteria for what makes a subject "notable" enough for inclusion in an international encyclopedia. For people, those criteria are spelled out at WP:BIO. The problem with this article about Robert Gartside is not in the way it is written, and rewriting won't help. The problem is that there just doesn't seem to be any evidence from independent reliable sources that Mr. Gartside is notable as Wikipedia defines it. Please don't be discouraged if this article gets deleted. I would suggest you start your Wikipedia editing by making small improvements to existing articles while you learn your way around here. --MelanieN (talk) 16:15, 1 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete The article does not even claim notability, much less demonstrate it. Google News and Google Scholar find nothing. As to the creator's claim that Gartside played an important role in the founding of the Pharmacists' Defence Association, I could find no documentation of that. Even his official bio at the Pharmacists' Defence Association (where he is an advisory board member) does not say he had any role in its founding. (In case anyone is going to suggest redirecting this page to Pharmacists' Defence Association, I would oppose that for lack of verification.) --MelanieN (talk) 15:55, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.