Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Gillespie of Blackhall, Baron of Blackhall


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The result was   merge to Barony of Blackhall. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 11:03, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Robert Gillespie of Blackhall, Baron of Blackhall

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First, this appears to be a WP:COI as it seems to be written by the subject. Second, I simply cannot see any great reason for notability. Not chief executive of a major company, holder of an OBE, which is not generally considered a high enough honour for "automatic" inclusion, and his title is not a true peerage and has never granted him a seat in the House of Lords, so not a member of a legislature either. Does not even appear in the British Who's Who. -- Necrothesp (talk) 23:08, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
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 * The article was blanked. I have restored it. I have no view on the discussion, but it should be about the article, not a blank page. -- Bduke   (Discussion)  13:05, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Barony of Blackhall. Not notable by press coverage or achievements. --Colapeninsula (talk) 11:38, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, KTC (talk) 13:52, 13 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Lean towards keep: If CBE is automatic keep, then OBE must be marginal. He's in Who's Who in France.  Although he appears to have bought the Barony rather than inheriting it (otherwise why hasn't the 12th Baronet inherited it?), it does make him somewhat of a curiosity. Barney the barney barney (talk) 16:06, 13 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Barony of Blackhall, everything alreadt there. J04n(talk page) 18:23, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep or Merge; per WP:OUTCOMES, we tend to keep British nobility and CBEs (it's not automatic, as far as I know), but have often merged others. Bearian (talk)
 * Indeed we do (and should do), but he is neither a member of the nobility nor a CBE! His "title" is not a peerage, but effectively an hereditary lordship of the manor, and he has an OBE, which we certainly don't consider automatically notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 22:00, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Lords are kept because at least theoretically they get a seat in the House of Lords (well most of them do), but this guy isn't that type of Lord, but another type, and he appears to have bought the title rather than in inherited the title, but he is an OBE, which makes him more Laura Trott than Victoria Pendleton.  Barney the barney barney (talk) 19:13, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
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