Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Kardashian


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The result was   keep. !Votes by single purpose accounts are given less weight. Nonetheless there is a clear consensus to keep. (non-admin closure) B  music  ian  01:48, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Robert Kardashian

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This article seems like a textbook case of WP:NOTINHERITED. Robert Kardashian seems to have an article because his children are famous and he was part of a famous event (the OJ Simpson trial), but I'm not convinced he's actually notable in his own right. Can anyone find an article, other than obituaries, that focuses on him outside of the context of OJ or his family? If not, this article should be deleted as failing WP:BIO. Robofish (talk) 23:28, 16 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep Are you kidding me? 1,260 google books hits, 103 google news hits, not that I had to look those up to know that he is notable. He was a very famous, high-profile lawyer.  Even if he were only mentioned in the context of the O.J. Simpson case, which he is not, why would that not make him notable?  The O.J. Simpson murder case was certainly a notable event, and Robert Kardashian was a key player in the event MisterRichValentine (talk) 03:31, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Compared to his family which acquired their fame through sheer annoyance and media management, Robert's article is rock-solid. Good sources, good profile and notability is assured.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 04:44, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. I don't think this is what WP:NOTINHERITED is for.  Kardashian  was covered extensively in reliable sources, and even if the bulk of his fame related to O.J., those articles (and his obituaries in major papers around the world) were about him.  I also concur with Nate/Mrschimpf's point. --Arxiloxos (talk) 06:45, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment NI doesn't really work here. Robert's article dates to October 1, 2003, a day after his death and even in that nascent form summed up his importance. His daughter Kim's article dates only to October 14, 2006 (in godawful US Weeklyesque-sourced form regarding the Ray J junk), and details about his family didn't appear in his article until late August 2005, when Kourtney appeared on an E! reality show. I really don't see how NI applies here when his family's articles didn't pop up until after 2006.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 08:52, 17 February 2012 (UTC)


 * If WP:NOTINHERITED doesn't fit, we must acquit. Sizable obituaries in the New York Times and the Guardian alone are sufficient proof of his notability. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:35, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. The many, many valid reasons for keeping it already listed on this page not withstanding, even the deletion reason given in this nomination is provably wrong. Robofish says "Robert Kardashian seems to have an article because his children are famous." This article was created (by me) in 2003, four full years before his children got a TV show and became famous. Raul654 (talk) 17:53, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. Robert Kardashian had fame well before his children became famous. He wasn't merely "part" of the O.J. Simpson murder trial and surrounding story.  He was a notable part.  Stevie is the man!  Talk &bull; Work 01:55, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Law-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 18:26, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
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 * Weak Delete Did gain some notability during the OJ trial, but not enough for his own article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.38.144.209 (talk) 21:13, 21 February 2012 (UTC)  — 99.38.144.209 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep. There are ample sources that indicate Robert Kardashian is notable in his own right. In addition, there is ample evidence that Robert Kardashian has recent notability from ongoing mentions in new sources related to the Kardashian family.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.131.126.196 (talk) 17:02, 22 February 2012 (UTC)  — 50.131.126.196 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
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