Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Leycester Haymes


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The result was Keep. Randykitty (talk) 14:13, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Robert Leycester Haymes

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Delete: absolutely no reason that I can see why this guy should be included: relatively minor commissioned rank, and no notable achievement. Totally unnotable. Delete. Bristolbottom (talk) 17:44, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep seems to meet WP:SOLDIER, I admit that the article needs expansion. --Bejnar (talk) 08:10, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 12:14, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 12:14, 22 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete. Not seeing the notability with this one. His rank (lieutenant-colonel) and his DSO are not sufficient. He held no especially notable position. He doesn't even have a Who Was Who entry. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:44, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:52, 22 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete to the contrary, I don't see how he meets SOLDIER or the GNG. 2IC of some obscure unit, LTCOL and DSO don't add up to notability on the face of it. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 02:17, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete No indication of notability generally speaking, doesn't seem notable as low-ranking officer with single DSO, and second-in-command in a short-lived, unimportant unit. &mdash;innotata 04:25, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Contrary to comment above, he does have an entry in Who's Who (1935 edition) and Who Was Who (online edition) MJT21 (talk) 07:06, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
 * You are correct. My mistake. My opinion that he's not notable stands however. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:16, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Weak keep per WP:GNG - there appear to be good sources, although how significant, I'm not sure. Bearian (talk) 16:10, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep. An entry in A & C Black's Who's Who is conclusive proof of notability, like an obituary in the NYT. The professional biographers who produce that publication are not likely to make a mistake about who is and isn't notable. The entry satisfies GNG in of itself. There are also other sources, such as biographies in Whitaker's Peerage and Debrett's Peerage. James500 (talk) 08:51, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 22:07, 30 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete If even the British Empire-loving "Senior Ediotrs" who made most of these junk articles get kept think this should be deleted, that is a sign. Wikipedia is not a place to advertise your fancy school and all the "famous" Imperialists who went there. MayVenn (talk) 02:15, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment Additional information added.  Commander of the 6th Siege Battery at the First Battle of Ypres and at the Battle of Neuve Chapelle.  One of the first to achieve O.P. at Neuve Chapelle.  See also Imperial War Museum archives MJT21 (talk) 07:45, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment - I looked at this one. I can see it both ways. The creator, MJT21 is still working on it, I suggest userfication to that editor if this ends as a Delete. Advice to the creator: this is missing some indication of significance. Was the subject important in some way in a battle? As a combat photographer? In some other non-military aspect of life? If so, that needs to be in there twice, once in the lead and once (with sources) in the body... As it stands this smacks of a family tribute, which, while sourced pretty well as these things go is nevertheless deletable under WP:NOTMEMORIAL. Carrite (talk) 16:18, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep: The guy made Who's Who in the days when that actually meant something. Done deal.  Period.  Nha Trang 18:35, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, it was probably easier to get into WW in those days. Nobody would get in today on the strength of being a lieutenant-colonel with a DSO! -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:30, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep or redirect to Battle of Neuve Chapelle. Subject appears to meet criteria 6 of WP:SOLDIER, "Commanded a substantial body of troops in combat". Failing that the subject falls under WP:BIO1E and the article can be redirected to the battle where the subject's actions were notable at.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 20:44, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * A battery hardly counts as a "substantial body of troops"! Surely we're not saying that every company commander is notable? -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:32, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Nominator appears to have set up an account to delete about thirty articles in one hour! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.145.39.139 (talk) 13:20, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.